Joined Nov 2014
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Australia
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Joined Jun 2014
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Johannesburg South Africa
Photo of my Hyper below:
Front bobbins from a GSXR600, frame bobbins are a generic part from Kawasaki and the rear axle bobbins are a locally made product that I turned down to fit inside the axle.
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Threaded rods and nylock nuts are your friend.
The frame bobbins require then removal of a main bolt that the motor hangs on, must be replaced with a substantial other.
Rear bobbins - That wheel, exhaust and swing arm are expensive - A must do
I had an altercation with a car jumping a red traffic light a few weeks ago, I "T" boned he car but I had already hit the clamps so hard I was crawling when I hit it. Unfortunately I was wearing Converse shoes, and had my left foot under the gear lever ready to change up when I connected the car. There was not a single mark on the bike after the coming together, but I have 2 broken toes and badly bruised shins from the frame bobbins. If I had been wearing proper bike boots I would probably have been ok.
Lesson learnt? The bobbins worked, but wear proper shoes
Front bobbins from a GSXR600, frame bobbins are a generic part from Kawasaki and the rear axle bobbins are a locally made product that I turned down to fit inside the axle.
Comments:
Threaded rods and nylock nuts are your friend.
The frame bobbins require then removal of a main bolt that the motor hangs on, must be replaced with a substantial other.
Rear bobbins - That wheel, exhaust and swing arm are expensive - A must do
I had an altercation with a car jumping a red traffic light a few weeks ago, I "T" boned he car but I had already hit the clamps so hard I was crawling when I hit it. Unfortunately I was wearing Converse shoes, and had my left foot under the gear lever ready to change up when I connected the car. There was not a single mark on the bike after the coming together, but I have 2 broken toes and badly bruised shins from the frame bobbins. If I had been wearing proper bike boots I would probably have been ok.
Lesson learnt? The bobbins worked, but wear proper shoes
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I made some rear axle bobbin things simply because I already have a standard rear stand and didn't want to buy a single sided rear stand. So they have bearings inside that allow the wheel to spin freely. To remove the rear wheel, I jack up the bike by the beefy sw-motech skidplate
I am not satisfied with the off-the-shelf bobbins for this bike. The frame sliders stick out too far. The rear doesn't really protect anything. The front is the only set that might do something.
I am not satisfied with the off-the-shelf bobbins for this bike. The frame sliders stick out too far. The rear doesn't really protect anything. The front is the only set that might do something.
Joined Nov 2014
188 Posts | 1+
Australia
Thanks gents, some good thoughts I need to look for front and rear bobbins that work.
With the mid engine bolt any ideas on the torque setting? I have a correct size bolt and all the fittings so think it will take about 30 mins.
Have also fitted the radiator and head guard from Evotech, I can't believe that Ducati leaves the head exposed as it is?
One more thing...I saw a manual on this site when I got the bike but can't find it now when I want it?? Can you point me in the right direction?
Michael
I need to look for front and rear bobbins that work.With the mid engine bolt any ideas on the torque setting? I have a correct size bolt and all the fittings so think it will take about 30 mins.
Have also fitted the radiator and head guard from Evotech, I can't believe that Ducati leaves the head exposed as it is?
One more thing...I saw a manual on this site when I got the bike but can't find it now when I want it?? Can you point me in the right direction?
Michael
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Photo of my Hyper below:
Front bobbins from a GSXR600, frame bobbins are a generic part from Kawasaki and the rear axle bobbins are a locally made product that I turned down to fit inside the axle.
Comments:
Threaded rods and nylock nuts are your friend.
The frame bobbins require then removal of a main bolt that the motor hangs on, must be replaced with a substantial other.
Rear bobbins - That wheel, exhaust and swing arm are expensive - A must do
I had an altercation with a car jumping a red traffic light a few weeks ago, I "T" boned he car but I had already hit the clamps so hard I was crawling when I hit it. Unfortunately I was wearing Converse shoes, and had my left foot under the gear lever ready to change up when I connected the car. There was not a single mark on the bike after the coming together, but I have 2 broken toes and badly bruised shins from the frame bobbins. If I had been wearing proper bike boots I would probably have been ok.
Lesson learnt? The bobbins worked, but wear proper shoes
I'm getting my frame slider tomorrow. Is it easy to install? You said I need to remove the main bolt engine hangs on. Do I need to prop up the engine when installing? Thanks!
Joined Jun 2014
202 Posts | 0+
Johannesburg South Africa
I did not prop anything, just replaced the bolt with a long threaded rod and tapered spacers and tightened it up. That was 3000 kays ago and the motor is still where it is supposed to be, so I guess it worked
my bike was on the centerstand when i installed my frame sliders. please make sure you put blue (medium) thread lock on that bolt. that bolt holding those sliders is also where your engine is mounted to the frame. my sliders came loose after several thousand kilometers that i could turn them by hand. luckily i caught it in time. could have been a disaster if the bolt came off on the high way at speed
Joined Nov 2014
188 Posts | 1+
Australia
My only concern is that the motor may move slightly and then there are issues with realigning the bolt and hole. Having had a good look at it over night I doubt this will be an issue but nonetheless I will still brace it, if only for my peace of mind. (old fart thinking)
What I am interested in is the touque. I do remember seeing 40 nm some where but am not sure where and this was why I'm looking for a manual.
What I am interested in is the touque. I do remember seeing 40 nm some where but am not sure where and this was why I'm looking for a manual.
Thanks Monstard and PomGP. Yes I was worried about the engine mount mis aligning. Now its comforting to know that it won't or move that much. Now I got to get one of those blue loctite.
Joined Nov 2014
188 Posts | 1+
Australia
Now have a manual....and after looking at it there are only two bolts that support the weight of the motor (along with all the other connections).
So being on the safe side I will support the engine against any movement. Better to be safe than sorry!
So being on the safe side I will support the engine against any movement. Better to be safe than sorry!
Joined Nov 2013
1K Posts | 1+
Inland SoCal
I made some rear axle bobbin things simply because I already have a standard rear stand and didn't want to buy a single sided rear stand. So they have bearings inside that allow the wheel to spin freely. To remove the rear wheel, I jack up the bike by the beefy sw-motech skidplate
I am not satisfied with the off-the-shelf bobbins for this bike. The frame sliders stick out too far. The rear doesn't really protect anything. The front is the only set that might do something.
This is a hyperstrada forum...
The stock centerstand is all I need to lift/remove the rear wheel. Yes, the rear axle sliders certainly don't protect the RHS side but the LHS does protect the swingarm. And the LH Speedymoto frame slider protects the water pump nicely. They don't stick out as much as the factory accessory ones on the SV...A corollary of Murphy's law states that when you prepare for an event, positive or negative, the likelihood of it happening decreases.
Joined Nov 2014
188 Posts | 1+
Australia
Got it installed today. It's a must that the bike is on its side stand and not the center stand. Prevents the motor mount from misaligning out of the frame.
Joined Nov 2014
188 Posts | 1+
Australia
Or you just tap the new bolt in to replace the old. Just be aware that the OEM bolt only has two small (10mm) bearing surfaces, so it's wise to go slowly.
Only suggestion I have is that you test the torque on both sides and not just tighten from one side.
This is a hyperstrada forum...
A corollary of Murphy's law states that when you prepare for an event, positive or negative, the likelihood of it happening decreases.
All good points. Only real reason I did it was an excuse to machine something custom.
The best option is to have good insurance and replace everything that inevitably breaks when you fall
Joined Nov 2013
1K Posts | 1+
Inland SoCal
I gave up on collision insurance on my bikes years ago, when my insurance company decided to get triple the amount from a minor claim back in half a year by raising the rate on my pickup!
My motto: I break it, I fix it. So I try to prevent that. Not falling helps!
Happy holidays, everyone.
My motto: I break it, I fix it. So I try to prevent that. Not falling helps!
Happy holidays, everyone.
