I'm considering changing from a 2012 Monster 1100evo. Anybody make the switch from a similar bike? Any thoughts/comments/pros/cons? Also, any differences between the 2013, 2014 and 2015 models? Likely looking at an 821 due to cost. Thanks!
Monster to Hyperstrada
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I am not aware fo any differences between 13-15 Hypers. I have a 13 myself I bought last year with 750 miles on it. as long as you get all the necessary recall/TSBs done you shoudl be ok.
I had a monster that was significantly modified. Biggest difference was lowered clip-ons, so the change in sitting position was significant for me. Likely a difference in rake as well, as the weight distribution associated with the change is noticeable, with less weight on the front compared to the monster. obviously a difference in seat height as well.
I recommend you test drive to determine if you like the changes or not. The hyper is a different animal and lots of fun to ride, so I think you may really like it.
I had a monster that was significantly modified. Biggest difference was lowered clip-ons, so the change in sitting position was significant for me. Likely a difference in rake as well, as the weight distribution associated with the change is noticeable, with less weight on the front compared to the monster. obviously a difference in seat height as well.
I recommend you test drive to determine if you like the changes or not. The hyper is a different animal and lots of fun to ride, so I think you may really like it.
Thanks for the comment. I will try to see if I can find a bike to test ride. They are not at dealerships any more so harder to find. My 1100evo also is well setup with lots of Rizoma bits and termi/race ecu. I am not sure I want to make the switch, but am starting to get bored
What's the difference? I know they have a number of seats available. Was the bike different or just the seat?
BTW, I am all of 171 cm tall (5'7.5")
I have a 2006 Monster 800 and a 2016 939 HS. I've ridden the 1100 evo too, its more of a point and shoot weapon than my nimble 800. The Hyper is way more upright, it might take you a while to get used to that.
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Search it. Rear suspension and seat lowered, I believe. Could drag some stuff a little easier. I'd say you're about at the limit for wanting a low. I'm 5'9" and tip toe both feet on the standard. You could get a standard and put the lowered seat on it.
The clutches on the 14's and 15's have an additional anti judder spring in them as well. The 13's have very off-on clutches due to not having that spring. The upgrade can be done relatively easily to add it to the 13's but they didn't come with them from the factory.
Great info - this is exactly what I was looking for. Those small details that it takes time to learn. I did read that the 2015 has the 130/130 mm suspension travel. Given that I don't plan to ride it off road I suspect this would be a favorable feature for my short stature. I just rented the Tracer 900 for a week and 1700 miles and the height took a little time to get used to. Not a deal breaker.
Is the difference between the 939 and 821 just engine and emission compliance?
Also, I have found the aftermarket exhaust and ECU tune (Rexxer or Racing/Ducati) made a nice difference in most of the Ducati's I own in terms of smoothing our delivery and torque curve. Is it less of a thing in the HS?
Is the difference between the 939 and 821 just engine and emission compliance?
Also, I have found the aftermarket exhaust and ECU tune (Rexxer or Racing/Ducati) made a nice difference in most of the Ducati's I own in terms of smoothing our delivery and torque curve. Is it less of a thing in the HS?
2014 also lacked the judder spring, which I just added, big improvement...the 821 vs. 939, both Duc twins, 821 is almost 1200 crank stroke with smaller bore, for a small engine, very good midrange, belt driven cams...939 is internal chain driven cams (no more belts to replace), shorter stroke/bigger bore, obviously little bigger engine, I'm sure people on this forum know more than I do about the deltas...I would consider the 939 lower maintenance...I do love my 821 though...
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Losing the cam belts is cool but, if it has the same valve adjustment interval (18K), you're gonna have to crack the motor anyway.
Spot on about the motor's linear power delivery. It builds and runs out like a 4 cyl but sounds like a twin and has low range grunt. The biggest attraction about going with the 939/ 950 would be increased power, which they don't really have. So don't feel shorted buying an 821.
Spot on about the motor's linear power delivery. It builds and runs out like a 4 cyl but sounds like a twin and has low range grunt. The biggest attraction about going with the 939/ 950 would be increased power, which they don't really have. So don't feel shorted buying an 821.
My other Ducati is a 998. I did notice the loss in raw torque, which is made up on the 821 HS by using extreme gearing (my 998 is 15/36 while the 821 HS is 15/45), so you need to be mindful about being in the right gear to avoid bogging. The flip side is that you get to wring out the motor and still be going at only moderately illegal speeds. My recommendation to you would be to ride one before making a decision. I'm happy because I have both, and this is the first touring-capable bike I've ever owned and has served me well. Just like my 998, I can't ever see myself selling this. It does so many things well the same way my 998 does only one thing well.