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Small Tail Bags - Bring a little stuff with you.

RSL

Joined May 2015
925 Posts | 9+
Dallas, Texas
My preference is to ride without luggage. Daily twisty 300 mile loops from a central hotel.

That said, riding in the mountains means that it can be any type of weather during the day. It is also prudent to carry some tools, tire repair kit and air compressor. I have an aluminum mount that I bolt one of two tail bags to my Hyperstrada for each ride.

A small one that easily holds my tools and tire repair stuff.

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Or, a larger tail bag that also holds a heated vest and waterproof gloves.

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Both have been made water resistant with NeverWet Fabric spray. Both come with rain covers for constant downpour.
 
Any photos of the brackets themselves? I'm assuming they slip through a channel in the bottom of the bag to hold them in place?
 
The two aluminum holders for the bags are simply flat aluminum stock from Home Depot. Cut to the width of the passenger handrails, with holes to match the 4 threaded holes already in place. Remove the little plastic inserts and thread in common bolts. You also can see in the top photo that I added small fender washers to the top of each aluminum mount. This is because the steel will spread the stress of the connection across a wider section of the aluminum.

The top photo reveals what I did to mount the aluminum to the bike.

I drilled two holes in the center of each aluminum holder, then melted two holes in each bag.

The larger bag has a large aluminum plate with two holes. A plate to support any weight I may carry.

The smaller bag is secured with large fender washers.

Easy and proven reliable over 3,000 miles of use, on the street and off-road.

All made with simple tools in my garage.

I also cut off all straps on both bags.

The seat can't be removed when the large bag is in place, but is easily removed when the small bag is there.

This is the system I've used on a number of bikes to secure tail bags. Works well for me and makes everything very secure.
 
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I use a Kriega US10 bag which connects to the 4 loops under the saddle it fits perfectly, is 100% waterproof as a drybag and holds 10 litres so plenty enough for most days out.
 
I just ordered the Nelson Rigg Jumbo tail bag. $116, Rev Zilla.

For a temp bag, I'm using one of my Tank Bags on rear rack, but it's just too small to fit much.

I'm hoping this "Jumbo" tail bag will not be too obese. Easy returns on Revzilla, but hoping I can make it work.
Here is pic of the tiny tank bag on there now. It fits good on the bike, IMO, but can't get what I need in it for an overnight ride. Zero room under seat on this bike.

Where do you guys put your tool kit? My stock one is under the seat ... but I'll need a more complete kit for longer rides ... plus tubeless plug kit, pump et al.

Any longer rides I'll use panniers, which are huge ... a bit wide!
Can't complain. Hard Bag kit for FJ-09 are OVER $900! :eek:

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Nelson-Rigg tank bag temp mount.
 
I found a small tail bag that fits perfectly witinin the rear grab handles. I normally use it to store my Abus GRANIT detecto 8077 alarm disklock and a seat cover.

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It's this one here:

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The only neagatives that I can find is that it was originally made for a BMW GS and that it looks like an *** imprint when looking from front to back :)
 
Oh, the little bag that goes under the GS little rack, above the tail lights.
 
Tools?
The only tools I carry are what is needed for flat repair.

LINK: http://hyperstrada.com/gear/3979-flat-repair-kit-very-easy-roadside-repair-set-up.html

Otherwise, I have Good Sam and a credit card.

Everything easily fits, along with photo stuff and snacks, in the tiny tail bag.

If I need to add rain jacket and heated vest, I switch to the Nelson Rigg bag.

Just don't care for huge top cases or tail bags.
I carry a fair sized tool kit. Still pretty basic but covers most road side issues. Most times I'm lending to less prepared riding buddies.

Having made dozens of trips into Baja, Mexico and Cent. America over the last
30 years, it's good to have a comprehensive tool kit ... even if it's only for your less well prepped riding buddies. :roll eyes:

For longer rides of course good prep avoids most problems you may have.
I just resurrected my tubeless repair kit and Slime pump. Doing careful and complete pre-ride prep avoids most issues ... but sometimes **** luck can not be found. On longer rides I also carry a comprehensive Nut/Bolt kit. Usually is used by riding buddies who've lost a nut or bolt. Super Glue and Epoxy also a must carry for me.

I have several kit configurations for tools and flat repair, all depends on type and length of ride and the bike. Here are a few kits I've used. Going deep into Mexico I take a fairly comprehensive kit. Local ride? Minimal.

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Long range kit for DR650
 
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Looks like a BMW rider's kit.

You know that with tubeless tires the air pump is easier. The Safety Seal plugs don't require adhesive.

Anyway. Thousands of miles with my Strada and no tools needed. No flats either, which is unusual for me.
 
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Looks like a BMW rider's kit.

You know that with tubeless tires the air pump is easier. The Safety Seal plugs don't require adhesive.

Anyway. Thousands of miles with my Strada and no tools needed. No flats either, which is unusual for me.
Those pics just show everything. I don't take the pump AND the CO2 kit ... one or the other. BMW kit? No, actually more of a Baja survivors kit! :rolleyes:

Actually you DO need adhesive using "Safety Seal" plugs ... why? To get the friggin thing INTO the hole! The adhesive is used as a lubricant to allow you to push them into the puncture. Without lube (rubber cement) plug can tear in half, depending of size of hole and technique.

Always best to to lube it up .... same with tire strings ... lots of rubber cement to allow easier insert.

Since I often ride in fairly large groups ... I see more than average solo rider in terms of flats and breakdowns.
On long Baja rides (since the 80's) groups of 10 to 15 riders.
Dozens of flats on all sorts of bikes over the years.

With my Bay area street riding group, less trouble these days. Most of these guys are well prepped.

Tool kit pictured was sort of "long haul" or 3rd world kit. I customize every kit for each bike ... and for the specific ride. So the one shown is just a starting point, will add or delete items depending.

What is sad is when you're way out somewhere and your riding buddy does not have the required tool. Also, one of my "Must Have" things is a comprehensive Nut & Bolt kit. OEM nuts, bolts, washers, spacers, springs, seals, whatever.
Very handy if something falls off ... or someone falls off. :eek:

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Beginning of 12 day Baja ride. This section is now all paved! :mad:
 
Actually you DO need adhesive using "Safety Seal" plugs ... why? To get the friggin thing INTO the hole! The adhesive is used as a lubricant to allow you to push them into the puncture.

Safety Seal comes with their lube, which allows for easy insertion and yet allows for the plug to vulcanize with the tire compound.

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Plugged one tire using the strings. Used rubber cement, the plug went in easy, dried and vulcanized, trimmed back with a sharp razor - back on the road. Better safe than sorry. I carry several small tubes because they tend to dry out when opened.

Also use an electric inflator and have a small handpump back up. Tested a CO2 cartridge from my bicycle kit and realized 2 things: You'll need a whole lot of them to fill a tire, the valve stem freezes and that can't be good if you need 10 cartridges to fill a tire. It's also a one shot deal. (technically, that's 3 things...)
 
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Plugged one tire using the strings. Used rubber cement, the plug went in easy, dried and vulcanized, trimmed back with a sharp razor - back on the road. Better safe than sorry. I carry several small tubes because they tend to dry out when opened.

Also use an electric inflator and have a small handpump back up. Tested a CO2 cartridge from my bicycle kit and realized 2 things: You'll need a whole lot of them to fill a tire, the valve stem freezes and that can't be good if you need 10 cartridges to fill a tire. It's also a one shot deal. (technically, that's 3 things...)
All good. True, with co2 you need a lot of cartridges. :eek: I'm using a Slime pump now. I've plugged dozens of tires (for friends mostly).

My advice is once the plug is in and tire aired up .... check for leaks. Make sure valve core is OK.(often overlooked and left LOOSE)

If all OK then do short ride ... 20 min. Pull over, check pressure. OK? Ride on.
If NOT ok you may need to re-do string plug. This has happened to me a couple times but I've got about a 90% success rate installing plugs and strings.

Many folks are very shy about doing higher speeds with a plug in their tire. I'm not ... but I increase speeds in stages and check pressure often for several days after plug is installed.

If on a long ride, be sure to re-check pressure in the morning before departure. It's normal to lose a few lbs. in first day or so, but after that, pressure should stabilize. If losing air ... re-do plug. :(

After the plug has been in there a few days and no leaks, I feel OK increasing speed. I won't go top speed but no problem cruising around 70 to 80 mph.
Of course, YMMV. ;)

Many riders insist on replacing a punctured tire, even is new. If tire is near its end, I agree. But if new or less than half worn out ... I continue riding with plug in. Done this MANY times since 1980's.

Was riding with BMW GS riding buddy. His plug repair leaked air when we were on the road. Good news is it leaked slowly so he knew he had to pull over. No sudden air loss like with a tube. We (read ME) re-did the plug ... this time it held. It's all about good technique and patience.

Some puncture holes are really torn up ... usually from rider continueing to ride bike flat with object tearing things up.

This can make the tire unrepairable. (been there done that) In one case in Baja, we had to put a tube in, no plug would hold.

But at our destination town, we took the tire to a Llantero shop (tire guy) and they did a SUPER interior vulcanized patch/plug. Remounted tire without tube. No problems from then on.
 
The Zumo 590 series has the TPM option, which I've added to my Strada.
 
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