I had the TKC-80s on my Tiger before I bought the Hyperstrada. Yeah, they don't have the ultimate grip of a sticky street tire, but you'd be surprised. I got them all the way down to the edge and then some. What they lose in contact area, they gain back some in softness. Of course that's why they burn up in 4,000 miles on the road. But they sure were nicer in anything off pavement but mud.