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How Urgent/Crucial is After-Market-Exhaust-Slip-On Remap? Just Installed Termignoni

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skyjo

Joined Jul 2014
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Melbourne, Australia
Hi Guys,

I just self-installed a Termignoni Exhaust Slip-On (Silencer only not full system) on my 2013 Ducati Hyperstrada (Australian version) with 1100km on Odo first service done and from reading the user manual, I understand that I'm supposed to get the bike remapped as Ducati have a specific map for the termi slip-ons. (yeah I'm one of those nerds that reads user manuals from front to back)

I will definitely get the bike remapped as I tend to be a mechanical-noob that follows user manuals/instructions to the letter PLUS the remap is supposed to add an extra 5hp of power.

*My question is whether anyone knows how urgent/crucial it is that I have the bike remapped accordingly? I'm planning to ride over to the mechanic at some point to get the remap done however he needs the bike overnight so I need to plan the logistics of it all.

(I installed the slip-on myself as I don't really have a convenient way of taking the slip-on to the mechanic PLUS it felt more manly to do it myself :) )

Thank Y'All
 
IMHO it is not urgent or critical that you get the fuel remap. Maybe the mileage and the power will be slightly less than the absolute optimal, but I can think of no way that your standard fuel map would somehow hurt your engine. Enjoy the ride and the new sound.

Cheers
 
BlueSwede said:
IMHO it is not urgent or critical that you get the fuel remap. Maybe the mileage and the power will be slightly less than the absolute optimal, but I can think of no way that your standard fuel map would somehow hurt your engine. Enjoy the ride and the new sound.

Cheers
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Thanks BlueSwede, I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
 
IDK. If the new pipe has an extreme effect on back-pressure and flow, or advertises a significant gain in power, then it will be useless without out updated mapping. Also, if you notice idle stumble, slow throttle response, poor gas milage or flat spots in the power curve...get it mapped. With todays fuel control and ECU's, you want very specific maps to get the most out of the engine.

On a car, probes will sense the dirtier/unrestricted exhaust and throw codes. It would be a cool experiment for you to ride without tune for a while then get one and note the difference and/or need.
 
skyjo said:
Hi Guys,

I just self-installed a Termignoni Exhaust Slip-On (Silencer only not full system) on my 2013 Ducati Hyperstrada (Australian version) with 1100km on Odo first service done and from reading the user manual, I understand that I'm supposed to get the bike remapped as Ducati have a specific map for the termi slip-ons. (yeah I'm one of those nerds that reads user manuals from front to back)

I will definitely get the bike remapped as I tend to be a mechanical-noob that follows user manuals/instructions to the letter PLUS the remap is supposed to add an extra 5hp of power.

*My question is whether anyone knows how urgent/crucial it is that I have the bike remapped accordingly? I'm planning to ride over to the mechanic at some point to get the remap done however he needs the bike overnight so I need to plan the logistics of it all.

(I installed the slip-on myself as I don't really have a convenient way of taking the slip-on to the mechanic PLUS it felt more manly to do it myself :) )

Thank Y'All
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Whoa, the remapping should not take more than half an hour, including getting to the plug. :eek: Is this a Ducati dealership mechanic?

And I believe that it's the full system that can yield another 5%, but of course the increased sound will make it feel like that and more.
 
zippy49 said:
Whoa, the remapping should not take more than half an hour, including getting to the plug. :eek: Is this a Ducati dealership mechanic?

And I believe that it's the full system that can yield another 5%, but of course the increased sound will make it feel like that and more.
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Both the main Ducati Dealership and a general motorcycle mechanic who works on Dukes said the same thing, that they need 2.5-3 hours. I think it's a bit odd as well.
 
My dealer said it was a very slow process checking the database for maps. I don't know if he meant accessing the Duc server or talking to the bike.
 
Finally called my dealer - his service manager checked and told me that no reflash is necessary or even available from Ducati for the Termi slip-on. After all, it retains the exhaust valve. And any power increase would be hard to measure.

Any more modification than that and you are on your own, caveat emptor!
 
zippy49 said:
Finally called my dealer - his service manager checked and told me that no reflash is necessary or even available from Ducati for the Termi slip-on. After all, it retains the exhaust valve. And any power increase would be hard to measure.

Any more modification than that and you are on your own, caveat emptor!
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That makes sense. In that case I'm really disappointed in my dealer and mechanic for not pointing that out. Seems like all these greedy people just simply wanted to charge me $280 to install a bloody slip-on. Ridiculous and totally unethical. Thanks.
 
After putting on the Arrow, I rode it for a week before getting the Rexxor flash. Made a big difference, all positive.
 
ok quick update guys. I had to drop by the Ducati dealership a week ago to pick up the panniers that came with the bike. I showed them the termi slip-on that I installed myself and asked if they could flash the bike with the appropriate upmap. They advised that if the slip-on doesn't come with the upmap, then no upmap flash required. It depends where you bought your slip-on... I got mine shipped from a distributor in Italy (much cheaper) and it did not come with the upmap. The dealership explained that certain regions have different emission rules and according to that, the slip-on will come with or without the upmap. They've assured me that it makes very little, if any difference as it's just a slip-on as opposed to a full exhaust system. I'm ok with that.

Cheers.
 
Agree that a full system would be more crucial. If you start cutting all the cat's and baffles out, might make a difference.
 
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My dealer said no need for any new map unless you go full system. I am at 4000 miles and no problems. Exhaust installed prior to pick up when I bought it new.
 
zippy49 said:
Finally called my dealer - his service manager checked and told me that no reflash is necessary or even available from Ducati for the Termi slip-on. After all, it retains the exhaust valve. And any power increase would be hard to measure.

Any more modification than that and you are on your own, caveat emptor!
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I have been reading about this up map dal that comes with the full exhaust. Apparently it allows you to access different maps that are stored in the system. One of which is made for slip ons. Now as far as I can see you can't get this up map key without buying the full system. Which makes no sense to me...
 
The Up-Map Stick comes with the full-system and the slip on high mount. The low mount slip on does not come with a Up-Map stick and no re-mapping is required.
 
I got the high mount slip on and with upmap on, i only notice a little low rev smoothness and a bit more mid rev power. i couldn t notice any difference at high rev or sound with the upmap...
could be subjective since i have no dyno comparison.

carbon cap quality is not that good or some leakage at the end of the can, since the carbon cap starts to turn yellow/brown at some spots.

the other carbon cover shows some white delamination spots...

will call this at the dealer, since this sould not happen at such an f***ing expansive exhaust.
 
I have the low mount so no map and the sound is bad ***!!! It feels like there is more mid level power but that could be a placebo. At that point the exhaust is very angry!!! I totally love the sound!!!
 

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