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Is there a recent ECU update out from Ducati for the Hyperstrada?

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HyperstradaHopeful

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I heard from someone that there's a recent software update out from Ducati for the Hyperstrada. Does anyone know when it came out and what it does? Also, how long does it take for my Ducati dealer to install and any idea what I can expect to pay (or would it be covered under warranty)?

My Hyperstrada was bought in July 2013 (I just bought it yesterday from the owner who bought it new) and has 900 miles on it, but not sure what date it had its 600 mile service or even if they updated the software at the 600 mile service.

Is there any way I can check the version number of the software on mine to see if there's a newer version out and I should make an appointment at my Ducati dealer?

Thanks!
 
I got my letter about the update in August or September. It took the dealer only a few minutes, and was free. If you call your dealer with your VIN he should be able to tell you if your bike has been done yet. Or just take it in so they can check. My dealer would not charge for this either, YMMV. I go to Newport Beach Ducati, they seem to be good guys.

I don't think there is a way to tell by yourself if it has been done by checking the ECU. But if your bike runs along at 4k rpm without a lot of hiccups or surging, it is probably A-OK. Mine does!
 
zippy49 said:
I got my letter about the update in August or September. It took the dealer only a few minutes, and was free. If you call your dealer with your VIN he should be able to tell you if your bike has been done yet. Or just take it in so they can check. My dealer would not charge for this either, YMMV. I go to Newport Beach Ducati, they seem to be good guys.

I don't think there is a way to tell by yourself if it has been done by checking the ECU. But if your bike runs along at 4k rpm without a lot of hiccups or surging, it is probably A-OK. Mine does!
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Then yup, I need the ECU update. The bike is pretty smooth throughout all the RPM ranges except right around 4k like you said. When cruising at 4k rpm (where I usually keep it), it just feels a little rough and choppy and mild amount of surging.

So the latest ECU update corrects this and makes the 4k rpm range as smooth as all the others? If so, that's good news and will make me like the bike a lot more! Does the ECU update provide any other improvements?

Also, do you think I'd be okay with having a fairly crummy local Ducati dealer do the ECU update? The reviews for their service department are pretty bad on Yelp. The closest good Ducati dealership is about 90 minutes away. Is the ECU update ***** proof and I'd be okay with any service department doing it no matter how bad, or should I drive the 3 hour roundtrip to the Duc dealer with the great service dept?
 
Update

I have a had a few updates since I picked it up at Moto Forza in Escondido. They did one and I have had more done out here in Alabama since I moved. I had a gremlin, the limp mode thread on here. Got the bike back for a fourth time last week. Hope it is last trip for that issue. They finally replaced parts instead of re-programming. The bike is a blast.
 
usmcstrada said:
I have a had a few updates since I picked it up at Moto Forza in Escondido. They did one and I have had more done out here in Alabama since I moved. I had a gremlin, the limp mode thread on here. Got the bike back for a fourth time last week. Hope it is last trip for that issue. They finally replaced parts instead of re-programming. The bike is a blast.
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Yeah, I'm definitely going to do the update as soon as I can.

The only weird thing that happened on my first ride with it out today was when I was sitting at a stop light with the clutch all the way in while in first gear, I rev'd it a couple times up to around 4k rpm and then two seconds later it just died all by itself. I started it back up no problems. But just found it weird that it died for seemingly no reason at all.

Does it not like to be rev'd? :eek:

Also, the shift light starts blinking at me around 3k rpm every time. What's up with that? Shouldn't the shift light start closer to 9k rpm?!? Once I hit 3k rpm, it start blinking fast. But if I hold it at around 4k rpm, it stops blinking. But if I pull a bit of quick throttle and rev it up, it immediately starts blinking again until I let go of the throttle... and never gotten past 6900rpm yet.
 
Sounds like the traction control light blinking under hard acceleration. Deffo not the limiter light.
 
mentalist said:
Sounds like the traction control light blinking under hard acceleration. Deffo not the limiter light.
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Is the traction light and the limiter light the same light? Any way to tell the difference? If so, that's pretty crazy that traction would be kicking in when it was considering I was going in a straight line on a perfectly dry road with tires with plenty of tread and not nearly enough throttle to come even close to doing a wheelie. I was riding around in Urban mode though. I'll switch DTC from 8 to 5 and see if that changes the light coming on.
 
Same light. DTC flashes and limiter is solid (accompanied with obvious cut in revs). DTC that high will definitely bug out the DTC. I ride at 6 in heavy rain and it will only step in if you give it too much juice.
 
gatdammit said:
Same light. DTC flashes and limiter is solid (accompanied with obvious cut in revs). DTC that high will definitely bug out the DTC. I ride at 6 in heavy rain and it will only step in if you give it too much juice.
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Sounds good. I'm a pretty new rider so I don't want any accidental wheelies. Which DTC setting would I be safe with to ensure no wheelies? Is 4 good or should I use 5 or 6?

Interestingly, I never felt any indication of the DTC working when the light flashed at me. Never felt like the throttle was being limited. I'm VERY used to DTC in cars and I know what DTC feels like kicking in in a car like the back of my hand... very abrupt reduction in throttle and application of brakes. Didn't feel anything on the bike?
 
HyperstradaHopeful said:
Then yup, I need the ECU update. The bike is pretty smooth throughout all the RPM ranges except right around 4k like you said. When cruising at 4k rpm (where I usually keep it), it just feels a little rough and choppy and mild amount of surging.

So the latest ECU update corrects this and makes the 4k rpm range as smooth as all the others? If so, that's good news and will make me like the bike a lot more! Does the ECU update provide any other improvements?

Also, do you think I'd be okay with having a fairly crummy local Ducati dealer do the ECU update? The reviews for their service department are pretty bad on Yelp. The closest good Ducati dealership is about 90 minutes away. Is the ECU update ***** proof and I'd be okay with any service department doing it no matter how bad, or should I drive the 3 hour roundtrip to the Duc dealer with the great service dept?
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I think the engine smoothed out more with miles, too. I have 3600 on mine now. I run it in Touring, with the engine power on medium, ABS on 1, and TC on 3. It will hold the front wheel an inch or two off the road through first if I really try, but otherwise it stays down.

I can't judge your local dealers from here, so you should go and find out yourself. The ECU update is straightforward, but some owners have reported dealers who said they did it but actually didn't. There's one obvious way to find out...
 
zippy49 said:
I think the engine smoothed out more with miles, too. I have 3600 on mine now. I run it in Touring, with the engine power on medium, ABS on 1, and TC on 3. It will hold the front wheel an inch or two off the road through first if I really try, but otherwise it stays down.

I can't judge your local dealers from here, so you should go and find out yourself. The ECU update is straightforward, but some owners have reported dealers who said they did it but actually didn't. There's one obvious way to find out...
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Thanks, Tom!

So I get the DTC setting but what's up with the different ABS settings? What does an ABS setting of 4 mean as opposed to the ABS set to 1? Even if it's set to 1 the brakes still don't lock up right? So I don't understand why there would even be settings to the ABS like that? If it's on 4, does ABS engage sooner than if it's at 1? What's the point of that? Wouldn't 1 provide the shortest stopping distance?
 
HyperstradaHopeful said:
That wouldn't make any sense. Traction control IS wheelie control.
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Nope. Not at all. Traction control keeps the rear wheel from spinning under hard acceleration, nothing else. If anything, traction control makes a wheelie easier as you can't lift the front if the back wheel is spinning without grip.

Bikes with wheelie control have a different set of sensors that detect chassis pitch and maybe extension of the front end. The hyper does not have that.
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HyperstradaHopeful said:
Interestingly, I never felt any indication of the DTC working when the light flashed at me. Never felt like the throttle was being limited. I'm VERY used to DTC in cars and I know what DTC feels like kicking in in a car like the back of my hand... very abrupt reduction in throttle and application of brakes. Didn't feel anything on the bike?
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Time to read the manual, grasshopper. The DTC is more advanced than any I've owned before. It starts by increasingly retarding ignition until finally cutting fuel at the extreme range. Older DTC's that abrubtly cut power were just cutting fuel. I only got a noticeable intervention in heavy standing water with DTC 3 when I juiced it in 2nd, sort of testing it's limit. I've broken mildly mid apex/heavy lean a couple times and it is very calm and controlled how it brings the back in step.

The anti-wheelie has been debated a few times here. Both wheels have wheel speed sensors and both are 17", so ideally they should be spinning at same speed under full traction, right? I don't think anybody dug deep enough to give difinitive answer but I can easily walk the front up on DTC 3 in 1st gear, occasionally in 2nd if it's a very smooth lift up.
 
gatdammit said:
And I think it's time to pick a new name. You're an owner now.
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+1 on that. ABS does provide anti-lift, but I think only at the rear.

Meanwhile, RTFM! :D

When my wife bought her first 'real' streetbike ('91 HawkGT) the dealer told her to put the manual on the back of the toilet, and peruse it when you are otherwise occupied. I keep mine in the tank bag....
 
HyperstradaHopeful said:
Thanks, Tom!

So I get the DTC setting but what's up with the different ABS settings? What does an ABS setting of 4 mean as opposed to the ABS set to 1? Even if it's set to 1 the brakes still don't lock up right? So I don't understand why there would even be settings to the ABS like that? If it's on 4, does ABS engage sooner than if it's at 1? What's the point of that? Wouldn't 1 provide the shortest stopping distance?
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ABS setting is there to let you the rider to have the breake "help" you want.
You can have ABS off or on front "only", and if only on front you can do the stunning slides in corner (like we all can.. right :) )

About DTC, i run default settings on touring mode (change sprocket though to -1 on front) and my front will lift on 1 gear and if i realy wack it (above +6000 rpm) on second gear.
On smooth rollon it will lift a bit on secon and feels ligth and 3´rd to.
You can do wheelys all day long on defalt settings on DTC in touring mode (seen it) if you got the skill. (My ducati dealer showed me on there demo bike, and it looked so easy.)
 

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