That's pretty awesome! I wonder why these brighter bulbs aren't in the motorcycle kit? Wonder if they would split the package?
I was going to go for the Xenon projector fitment as another member did, but I like that given the single-bulb nature of the bike, I can swap the LED for a regular bulb should anything go wrong..
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I was going to do that too, I did that to my old bike was a lot of work but worth it, I did dual bi-xenon projectors, made my own custom harness. 35w 4300k HIDs that put out 3000 lumens each. Now I'd rather just put these new bulbs in and have no ballasts to worry about no harnesses etc. It puts out more light, uses less energy than the stock bulb and it's plug and play. Sure the heatsink in the back is a little big, but I'll figure out what to do when the time comes or if someone orders one here and installs one before I do.
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The bike LEDs from Lifetime are lower wattage than the automotive units. They have a plain heatsink, the auto ones have a fan in there too.
So, I'm not sure that the H4M would be bright enough. Certainly not as bright as that pair on a Toyota truck. Wonder if the regular H4 would fit in the Strada headlamp housing?
Actually I'm tempted to get a set for our Mazda 3 - but it looks like I'd need two pair. Ouch.
So, I'm not sure that the H4M would be bright enough. Certainly not as bright as that pair on a Toyota truck. Wonder if the regular H4 would fit in the Strada headlamp housing?
Actually I'm tempted to get a set for our Mazda 3 - but it looks like I'd need two pair. Ouch.
Oh damn I miss my 636! Had an '05, stolen from me in '06 in Alabama. Had 63,000km on it!
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Found something else interesting. A manufacturer of LED bulbs was doing a test between halogen, LED and HID in reflector and measuring the effective lumens to the ground/wall.
"A halogen bulb, 22w LED headlight bulb, and 35w 5000K AC digital HID kit were placed and tested in a reflector housing headlight assembly. The same light meter was capturing the halogen bulb at approximately ~650 lumens, 22w LED headlight bulb at ~1200 lumens, and the 35w HID kit at ~1500 lumens. "
These kits that LifeTime has definitely has HID range of lumens to the ground.
"A halogen bulb, 22w LED headlight bulb, and 35w 5000K AC digital HID kit were placed and tested in a reflector housing headlight assembly. The same light meter was capturing the halogen bulb at approximately ~650 lumens, 22w LED headlight bulb at ~1200 lumens, and the 35w HID kit at ~1500 lumens. "
These kits that LifeTime has definitely has HID range of lumens to the ground.
Ive just been surfing a researching. You can find some reviews of these lights on off-road forums and elsewhere. Nothing but positive reviews! All say much more light than halogen, and that is has the same cutoff as the standard bulbs, so no blinding people or getting flashed at.
However, all are using standard car kits, not the H4M..
However, all are using standard car kits, not the H4M..
So what's the deal? Does the H4M bulb from LifetimeLED fit?
Also, if the bulb is sealed airtight in the headlight housing, where does the heat go that the heat sink is dispersing?
I was thinking of getting the HID retrofit kit, but that's at least $150 plus install costs so this would be a lot cheaper and easier.
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Also, if the bulb is sealed airtight in the headlight housing, where does the heat go that the heat sink is dispersing?
I was thinking of getting the HID retrofit kit, but that's at least $150 plus install costs so this would be a lot cheaper and easier.
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When I look at test results I always consider the source (aka 'follow the money"). What wattage and make of halogen bulb did they test? Very convenient that they left that out.
My searching shows a standard 60/55 H4 bulb with ECE approval is rated at 1650/1000 lumens, the DOT version at 1590/980. "High efficacy" versions are available with the same watt ratings, up to 1895/1148. I note that DOT certification would include these lumen outputs. The manufacturer is responsible for testing, but if they are found to be cheating it can result in a safety recall.
If that's not enough, you can go up a few watts to a "Rallye" H4 at 70/65W without changing the wiring, giving 2000/1350. There are even more powerful versions, but they carry "Can damage plastic lamps" warnings.
The Lifetime H4M is rated 24/18W and 1800/1400 lumens. Sounds like quite a bit of work for not much benefit.
OTOH...I'm a retired mechanical engineer, and one of the sayings I've learned to believe is "Specifications are lies made up by marketing departments!"
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That heatsink is behind the actual sealed housing, out where the plug lives. Takes up a lot of space, wonder if it even fits in our bikes? Someone else needs to find out, I'm done. If I rode after dark more than once a year, maybe I'd be more concerned.
Don't see how that would work. How does the headsink fit through the sealed housing? It's a cap that twists at the back of the headlight housing right behind the bulb that seals it. With this LED bulb it appears the headlight housing cap could not be reapplied and thus would not be sealed and open to moisture getting inside the housing.
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put down the mouse and pick up the phone...
You should be asking the manufacturer these questions...it's pretty obvious that others have installed these in many different applications. How hard can it be? And if you look at the pic on their website, there is a flange that fits into the reflector, just like the one on a regular bulb.
You should be asking the manufacturer these questions...it's pretty obvious that others have installed these in many different applications. How hard can it be? And if you look at the pic on their website, there is a flange that fits into the reflector, just like the one on a regular bulb.
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Was there an end to this? Im fitting some LED aux lights on the bike, some Denalis and would love to finish the main headlight off with an LED headlight.
http://lifetimeledlights.3dcartstores.com/H4M-motorcycle-headlight_p_76.html
http://lifetimeledlights.3dcartstores.com/H4M-motorcycle-headlight_p_76.html
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I'm not going to do the project, I ordered 55W 4300k H4 hi/low system instead. Rather drill two holes in the cap and wire the whole thing and get 5000+ lumens for the same price as the H4M.
Hmm, I have done this with my gixer K8 once but that had a 'lens' the hyper has a 'reflector'. That is not good for the UK and the police.
I use "" as I am probably not using the correct terms
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I was worried about putting HID in a reflector until I saw the actual pattern. I did a full on projector retrofit on my last bike so it would be legal. Someone else did this. Here's 55W 4300k with H4 HI/LOW system in the new Hyper's reflector housing. Doesn't blind oncoming traffic.
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