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Oil Changes / Has anyone sent in Used Oil for analysis at Blackstone or elsewhere?

Joined Sep 2015
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Denver, CO
I thought I was reading a post about it here but must have been on another forum because I can't find it now.

Standard Analysis

I know oil changes/ oil is always a hotly debated topic, but

Is the consensus to change oil mid-service every say 4500 miles?

Thanks

The Count
 
my dealer recommended mid-cycle. They race so I trust him. I drive my Duc way harder than my car, which I would never mid-cycle.
 
I swap out the oil at 1/2 cycle (7,000 km), and filter, oil, magplug and screen inspections at full cycle (14,000 km). I feel that 7,000 km on used oil is enough time in service, however I don't see the need to change the filter as often as indicated by the screen and magplug inspections.
 
If you use the Amsoil EAO synthetic oil filter, the media continues to filter for a minimum of 15,000 miles.

That said, I choose to change oil and filter far more often than 9,000 miles.

Thus, using Blackstone isn't necessary.
 
an oil filter is about $11 and holds about half a liter of old oil. Why not change it?

Because I feel it doesn't warrant the change. The only real reason I'm changing the oil early is attempt to get most of the moisture out of the cases that the oil managed to trap, and hopefully avoid staining inside the case halves once the oil gets dark.

Most full synthetic oils have a lot longer service interval than old school mineral based oils, heck my '14 BMW F30 has a 25,000 km oil change interval (which I find absurd).. but the dealership is paying that bill so they can do it.
 
I have 24,000 hard miles on my SP and I change the oil according to the interval specified in the manual.

There are far worse things that are going to happen to this motorcycle before "dirty" oil takes out the engine...
 
Regular oil changes are very cheap insurance. I do all my vehicles every 6 months or at 1/2 way between 'recommended' service intervals, which ever is the sooner. Cheers.
 
Reading my auto owners manuals I see that Severe Duty oil change schedules are twice as often the normal schedule. The way I ride isn't like a commuter. ;) Thus, I follow an informal oil change schedule.

For many motorcycle riders though, time is what requires a change. Every oil and filter manufacturer says that both must be changed annually.

I've seen the Blackstone reports on other motorcycle tests at 5,000 to 6,000 miles. With the exception of Amsoil, it was time for that oil to go as the additives were exhausted. Blackstone tests don't look at the long chain lubricating molecules to see if they are torn apart. Instead they infer this from other aspects of testing.

With the Euro desire for environmental nirvana, there is a push for 10,000 mile oil changes with autos. Makes sense for Ducati to say 9,000 mile oil changes with their Group 3+ synthetic oil.

If I was riding around the country on an Iron Butt ride, 9,000 miles might be just fine. The way I ride, and where I ride, leads me to believe that as the oil level sight glass shows dark oil, it's prudent to change the oil and filter.

It costs me $50.40 to change the oil and filter. Very small price for the certainty that the best of lubrication is in place.
 
I think 2 things are toughest on the oil/engine:

If you store the bike for a long time it's best to do it with fresh oil.

If you do a lot of city riding were the oil engine doesn't get a chance to fully warm up, the oil will become more acidic.

I've come to think the black oil thing is more from clutch material than age. It seems to happen very quickly. I'm just guessing here.

Most likely, we're all overdoing it. Synthetics resist viscosity breakdown over time very well, watercooled engines function within a controlled environment, cylinder coatings prevent ring stiction on start-up etc.. I still won't wait for 9000 miles though...
 
I mostly commute on mine and when work is heavy for me, a lot of stuff falls by the wayside. So, a mid-cycle also serves a good opportunity for me to give the bike a good hands-on inspection of stuff I don't get to check each ride: chain, wear, torque specs, etc.
 
That makes a lot of sense. I rode with a guy who wiped down his bike every morning. He explained that he didn't care how it looked, but by doing this he could focus on seeing if anything needed attention. Lesson learned.