Rotors

RoadChick · Apr 3, 2015

So, I had my boyfriend ride my bike and he says, your rotors are warped. Braking is grabby, which is what I was mistaking for not liking the ABS.

So, I started searching on this forum and found people have problems with brake pads and build up. My bike is still under warranty. Should I try and replace the brake pads myself first, or just take it to the dealer and see if the rotors are warped? I have a 2014, but the person I bought the bike from put 7000 miles on it.

Thanks for any recommendations or opinions.

peoples1234 · Apr 3, 2015

Replace the pads. You can get them on Amazon pretty cheap.

You can try the dealer but all they will do is clean the rotors and maybe the buttons, but the issue will come right back again.

gatdammit · Apr 3, 2015

Unless they changed the OEM pads over the last year, the problem will come right back. EBC HH pads are cheap and do the trick. Temp fix is scrubbing the rotor with degreaser and a scotch brite pad, and solid and progressive brake grad from high speed.

kuksul08 · Apr 3, 2015

gatdammit has it right.

I don't really mind personally, it's that that bad on mine but i do notice it

RoadChick · Apr 3, 2015

I just ordered the EBC Sintered Front Brake Pads,thanks everyone.

BelloStrada · Apr 3, 2015

Just as an FYI, I'll relate my "warped rotors" experience on my Monster 796. Just before taking the bike in for the 600 mile service, I gave it a good wash. After getting the bike back from the dealer, I noticed the front brakes started pulsating wildly, to the point that I was afraid to even use the front brake on the ride home. I was convinced the rotors were warped. Before taking tbe bike back to the dealer, I went to the forum and read post after post about warped rotors, defective pads, warranty claims, etc., but one post caught my attention from a fellow Monster owner. He determined the "buttons" that allow the rotors to float on the front hub could get sticky and cause big time pulsing of the brakes, leading one to believe the rotors were warped. This condition would manifest particularly following a good washing of the bike.
I put one very small droplet of MPT-12 moly lube on each button, let the bike sit overnight, and took it out for a ride the following morning. The pulsing completely vanished. I sold the bike with 10,400 miles on it and never encountered the symptoms again. I'd simply place a tiny drop of MPT-12 on each button after washing the bike (approximately every 1,000 miles) and the front brakes worked flawlessly.
I just wanted to throw that out there to any Hyper owners to think about before spending money on new pads or bugging the dealer for new rotors.
I've got 500 miles on my new Hyper and plan to give it a good wash before the 600 mile service. If the front brakes start pulsing, I'm pretty sure I have an easy solution to eliminate the issue for good.
I'm in no way claiming there haven't been legitimate problems with brake pad and rotor issues on Hypers, I'm simply relating a somewhat relevant experience I had.

RoadChick · Apr 3, 2015

BelloStrada said:
Just as an FYI, I'll relate my "warped rotors" experience on my Monster 796. Just before taking the bike in for the 600 mile service, I gave it a good wash. After getting the bike back from the dealer, I noticed the front brakes started pulsating wildly, to the point that I was afraid to even use the front brake on the ride home. I was convinced the rotors were warped. Before taking tbe bike back to the dealer, I went to the forum and read post after post about warped rotors, defective pads, warranty claims, etc., but one post caught my attention from a fellow Monster owner. He determined the "buttons" that allow the rotors to float on the front hub could get sticky and cause big time pulsing of the brakes, leading one to believe the rotors were warped. This condition would manifest particularly following a good washing of the bike.
I put one very small droplet of MPT-12 moly lube on each button, let the bike sit overnight, and took it out for a ride the following morning. The pulsing completely vanished. I sold the bike with 10,400 miles on it and never encountered the symptoms again. I'd simply place a tiny drop of MPT-12 on each button after washing the bike (approximately every 1,000 miles) and the front brakes worked flawlessly.
I just wanted to throw that out there to any Hyper owners to think about before spending money on new pads or bugging the dealer for new rotors.
I've got 500 miles on my new Hyper and plan to give it a good wash before the 600 mile service. If the front brakes start pulsing, I'm pretty sure I have an easy solution to eliminate the issue for good.
I'm in no way claiming there haven't been legitimate problems with brake pad and rotor issues on Hypers, I'm simply relating a somewhat relevant experience I had.

This was my exact problem!! Put lube on each button and its gone! I already bought the pads so we will install them, but you just posted the answer to the problem and the solution!

BelloStrada · Apr 3, 2015

Great to hear, Rene! I feel for a lot of riders who may have unnecessarily battled with their dealer over warranty claims or spent needlessly on new pads when a tiny drop of lube on each button/rivet solves the issue. But hey, you've got new pads that are probably better than stock, so may as well slap those babies on the bike!

peoples1234 · Apr 3, 2015

I hope that was your problem and you were able to fix it.

While I never lubed the buttons myself, the dealer did (or said they did) and the problem did go away...for a while. Then it came back again. With the new pads the problem hasn't come back.

I say do both.

zibbit u2 · Apr 3, 2015

Geez RoadChick in less than a month you're dominating this website.. Bravo!! Keep up the good work, you're asking all the right questions that we're all learning from.

gatdammit · Apr 4, 2015

Well, I got a set of race rotors over repeated griping, so that was a win. Has Ducati really lost thousands of dollars replacing pads and rotors when they could have issued a TD to just lube the buttons?!

Someone would get fired if it were my company.

gatdammit · Apr 5, 2015

Damn, Bello. Great call. Lubed each bobbin with some gun oil and they are perfect now. I'd say half of the bobbins were frozen in place. I feel maybe washing them and scrubbing them when she gets a bath hastens this issue.

BelloStrada · Apr 5, 2015

Great to hear lubing the buttons helped out, @gatdammit. I just passed on the info, though...it was a member of the Monster Forum who posted about the "lube solution" a couple of years ago. Just remember...it only takes a TINY droplet on each button to do the trick after washing the bike. Too much lube and you're slinging it up onto the rotor, which wouldn't be so good! After applying the lube, I let my bike sit overnight before riding, to allow the lube to migrate over the full surface area of the buttons.
It is a bit odd that Ducati hasn't been more vocal about this issue, as it seems to be quite common across multiple model lines.
There's a company in Long Beach, CA...Lubeco, Inc. that has several proprietary dry film lube patents. Duc (or whoever manufactures the rotors) cuold send a trillion or so buttons to them and the issue would be solved forever, very cheaply.

gatdammit · Apr 5, 2015

I lubed sparingly, dabbed, let sit for half the day, then followed with brake cleaner soaked rag on the rotors before riding. Honestly, I don't think much will last too long under heat created by rotors if you're sloppy. There's a gun lube I use that comes with a very fine syringe nipple that just squeezed into the rotor/bracket gap the bobbins join. I think just a dab either side and then spinning bobbins by hand is good method. Dry lube ideal and I would avoid any aerosol sprays around the rotors.

Seriously, at least 2 dozen members on this forum had rotors and/or pads replaced. I bet twice that used the threads as fuel for replacement or came up as web search hits. Glad I saved my old pads cause they were probably fine.

Canto · May 25, 2015

Can anybody post a photo where to lube, please?
Thanks in advance!

zibbit u2 · May 25, 2015

Each one of the little circle "buttons" on the front rotors are pretty easy to identify.. They attach the un-coated braking surface to the painted black center carrier.. Be forewarned, if you get oil on the braking surface (where the pads ride) or the pads then you'll have no brakes... So be VERY sparing with any oil around those rotors... Then clean everything very well with some brake clean afterwords.

Braaap · May 25, 2015

Rotors should be covered under warranty. I had mine replaced with 8k miles on my bike. They also replaced my pads.

BelloStrada · May 25, 2015

A tiny drop of light moly lube on each rivet after every bike wash and the original rotors should be good for the life of the bike.

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