Joined Mar 2013
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Naples, IT
'Tards,
Well, I did it. Years back I envisioned possibly swapping the 2017+ SuperSport 950 panniers with our stockers after I saw how much better they were. Now, I still argue the OEM's are decent and I wouldn't have purchased this bike if they didn't hold a full-face helmet. Plus, the form factor compliments the shape of the Hyper. However, slightly flimsy and they turn to elephant skin after about 3 months in the sun. The SS bags are made by Givi and have a very similar basic shape as our OEM's. Buddy of mine recently bought a 2017 SS and I got to inspect his bags. Some very rudimentary comparisons led me to believe this was doable. I was, thankfully, correct.
Now, this is a relatively crude approach for you engineers out there. I don't have CAD or even a proper work station. I have decent tools and above average mechanical ability. The donor bags were floor models that I got shipped for around $950. I imagine if your patient you could find a used set in the $500 range.
So, why go to through the trouble of the transplanted brackets? Because the best part about our OEM system is the mounting system that doesn't look like a nest of wire coat hangers if your ride naked. Also, the SS bags don't match the locks to the ignition key, which is also a plus for the OEM.
Skill Level: 3-4 (and a lot of patience)
Time: 6-8 hours (2nd bag was about 4 hours after I knew what I was doing).
Tools/ Materials (other than basic stuff):
- Dremel with cutting wheel
- Adhesive. I used shoe goo, which is actually pretty awesome stuff.
- 1/4" dense foam padding. I bought a 3'x3' garage floor pad you would put in front of a bench to stand on. It was maybe a little too thick but worked.
- Stencil material. I used cork board but anything rigid that cuts easy is fine. I don't have a lot of resources in my location.
- Tracing paper. I actually used parchment paper cause it was there. You may be able to use my schematic photo's in lieu.
- Paint pens.
- 20, 30, 40 mm round cap headed M6 bolts. Just get a bunch of these as you'll be dealing with a lot of varying depths. Intermediate sizes are bonus (25, 35, etc.). I preferred philips heads over the OEM hex heads. You can probably reuse a lot of the OEM bolts but sucks to get stuck without proper hardware.
1. Make Master Stencil. Not scientific but worked for me. This is mostly to keep your project on track as you get to the mounting phase. A master file. You can try my mensurated illustration but I never used it. Keep track of orientation of brackets and which bag your working on so you don't install the mounts backwards.
2. Outline OEM Brackets/ Voids. Use a paint pen to outline all the inner and outer OEM bracket pieces. There's a zippered access on the inner cover of both models to get to the bracket bolts and spacers. For the SS bags, trace the external raised portions surrounding the "Y" bracket. We'll have to fill these voids to even the brackets on the inside.
3. Remove OEM Brackets. You can do both sets. Save the thin metal inner "Y" bracket from the SS bags as we'll use this later (photo).
4. Cut Spacers. We have to make leveling spacers for the internal and external bracket mounts. You probably don't need the cork board if you can get buy with the tracing paper or other means. Be sure the final product is of the compressible material. Cut these to fit and glue into place.
5. Cut OEM Bracket Wall. Point of no return - dremel out the entire bracket wall of OEM bags. I would start big, like along the entire seam. You will have to trim this considerably but better to start big. Later, you can hug the outer bracket boundaries and jenga it into place. This is a strong material and will help make a uniform compression disc to keep everything secure. The OEM inner brackets had adhesive but I didn't do this on final product.
6. Drill Mounting Holes. Mostly feel and not science here. If you cut the OEM bracket wall to fit flush inside the SS bag, this sorta works out. Mount the wall and drill. There will be 2-3 holes in the outer "Y" foam that will require you to drill the matching thin metal bracket. After you drill all holes, lay the metal "Y" brack over the foam match and mark the holes.
7. Assemble Brackets. Recommend loosely attaching the long inner-middle bracket first, wedge the metal "Y" bracket under it, tighten and continue. You can start with longer bolts, dog them down, and shift to shorter bolts to get the most flush fit as the foam material compresses. Keep in mind the top locking bracket is the thickest. Alternate torque until all are flush but careful not to crack the inner wall.
8. Mount and Profit! Lube the mating surfaces and don't force anything. You can probably adjust the torque on individual bolts/ brackets to even it out. I was pretty seat of the pants and both fit first try.
Cheers.
Well, I did it. Years back I envisioned possibly swapping the 2017+ SuperSport 950 panniers with our stockers after I saw how much better they were. Now, I still argue the OEM's are decent and I wouldn't have purchased this bike if they didn't hold a full-face helmet. Plus, the form factor compliments the shape of the Hyper. However, slightly flimsy and they turn to elephant skin after about 3 months in the sun. The SS bags are made by Givi and have a very similar basic shape as our OEM's. Buddy of mine recently bought a 2017 SS and I got to inspect his bags. Some very rudimentary comparisons led me to believe this was doable. I was, thankfully, correct.
Now, this is a relatively crude approach for you engineers out there. I don't have CAD or even a proper work station. I have decent tools and above average mechanical ability. The donor bags were floor models that I got shipped for around $950. I imagine if your patient you could find a used set in the $500 range.
So, why go to through the trouble of the transplanted brackets? Because the best part about our OEM system is the mounting system that doesn't look like a nest of wire coat hangers if your ride naked. Also, the SS bags don't match the locks to the ignition key, which is also a plus for the OEM.
Skill Level: 3-4 (and a lot of patience)
Time: 6-8 hours (2nd bag was about 4 hours after I knew what I was doing).
Tools/ Materials (other than basic stuff):
- Dremel with cutting wheel
- Adhesive. I used shoe goo, which is actually pretty awesome stuff.
- 1/4" dense foam padding. I bought a 3'x3' garage floor pad you would put in front of a bench to stand on. It was maybe a little too thick but worked.
- Stencil material. I used cork board but anything rigid that cuts easy is fine. I don't have a lot of resources in my location.
- Tracing paper. I actually used parchment paper cause it was there. You may be able to use my schematic photo's in lieu.
- Paint pens.
- 20, 30, 40 mm round cap headed M6 bolts. Just get a bunch of these as you'll be dealing with a lot of varying depths. Intermediate sizes are bonus (25, 35, etc.). I preferred philips heads over the OEM hex heads. You can probably reuse a lot of the OEM bolts but sucks to get stuck without proper hardware.
1. Make Master Stencil. Not scientific but worked for me. This is mostly to keep your project on track as you get to the mounting phase. A master file. You can try my mensurated illustration but I never used it. Keep track of orientation of brackets and which bag your working on so you don't install the mounts backwards.
2. Outline OEM Brackets/ Voids. Use a paint pen to outline all the inner and outer OEM bracket pieces. There's a zippered access on the inner cover of both models to get to the bracket bolts and spacers. For the SS bags, trace the external raised portions surrounding the "Y" bracket. We'll have to fill these voids to even the brackets on the inside.
3. Remove OEM Brackets. You can do both sets. Save the thin metal inner "Y" bracket from the SS bags as we'll use this later (photo).
4. Cut Spacers. We have to make leveling spacers for the internal and external bracket mounts. You probably don't need the cork board if you can get buy with the tracing paper or other means. Be sure the final product is of the compressible material. Cut these to fit and glue into place.
5. Cut OEM Bracket Wall. Point of no return - dremel out the entire bracket wall of OEM bags. I would start big, like along the entire seam. You will have to trim this considerably but better to start big. Later, you can hug the outer bracket boundaries and jenga it into place. This is a strong material and will help make a uniform compression disc to keep everything secure. The OEM inner brackets had adhesive but I didn't do this on final product.
6. Drill Mounting Holes. Mostly feel and not science here. If you cut the OEM bracket wall to fit flush inside the SS bag, this sorta works out. Mount the wall and drill. There will be 2-3 holes in the outer "Y" foam that will require you to drill the matching thin metal bracket. After you drill all holes, lay the metal "Y" brack over the foam match and mark the holes.
7. Assemble Brackets. Recommend loosely attaching the long inner-middle bracket first, wedge the metal "Y" bracket under it, tighten and continue. You can start with longer bolts, dog them down, and shift to shorter bolts to get the most flush fit as the foam material compresses. Keep in mind the top locking bracket is the thickest. Alternate torque until all are flush but careful not to crack the inner wall.
8. Mount and Profit! Lube the mating surfaces and don't force anything. You can probably adjust the torque on individual bolts/ brackets to even it out. I was pretty seat of the pants and both fit first try.
Cheers.