Buying an SP... plan to do a swap

beef tits · Jul 10, 2017

Tentatively picking one up this weekend.

Should I swap SP suspension/wheels onto the Hyperstrada or swap the Hyperstrada goodies onto the SP?

The HS has less miles and I know it's history so the original plan seemed obvious... but the front suspension/triples look like a real ***** to swap over. Has anyone done this or anything similar?

I also heard the HS has a larger alternator... is this true? Definitely would like to keep the charge ports too. Other than the aforementioned, the swap looks like bolt on stuff only.

I'll be keeping the red plastics regardless. The SP color scheme looks like clown vomit to me. Ducatis should be red. Period.

monocog007 · Jul 10, 2017

beef **** said:
Tentatively picking one up this weekend.

Should I swap SP suspension/wheels onto the Hyperstrada or swap the Hyperstrada goodies onto the SP?

The HS has less miles and I know it's history so the original plan seemed obvious... but the front suspension/triples look like a real ***** to swap over. Has anyone done this or anything similar?

I also heard the HS has a larger alternator... is this true? Definitely would like to keep the charge ports too. Other than the aforementioned, the swap looks like bolt on stuff only.

I'll be keeping the red plastics regardless. The SP color scheme looks like clown vomit to me. Ducatis should be red. Period.

I'd swap over to the 'Strada. That way the more complicated bits stay where they already are (wiring harness and alternator).

Edit: Are you planning on making both bikes working again or gonna part out what's left of the spare?

gatdammit · Jul 10, 2017

Still haven't read of anyone fashioning SP suspension gear to the HS.
HS does have a beefier alternator, plus the additional ports. Think the SP wheels are lighter, too.

gatdammit · Jul 10, 2017

Still haven't read of anyone fashioning SP suspension gear to the HS.
HS does have a beefier alternator, plus the additional ports. Think the SP wheels are lighter, too.

appliance821 · Jul 10, 2017

beef **** said:
Ducatis should be red. Period.

They charge extra for the white because its better.

kuksul08 · Jul 10, 2017

I don't see the point actually. The SP is good for what it is, but if you're after better suspension your money is better spent on an aftermarket cartridge and shock.

The wheels on the SP are nice. It also has a radial master cylinder. Magnesium valve covers. Carbon engine covers and fender. But none of these are worth dealing with a whole new bike just to swap the parts.

beef tits · Jul 10, 2017

kuksul08 said:
I don't see the point actually. The SP is good for what it is, but if you're after better suspension your money is better spent on an aftermarket cartridge and shock.

The wheels on the SP are nice. It also has a radial master cylinder. Magnesium valve covers. Carbon engine covers and fender. But none of these are worth dealing with a whole new bike just to swap the parts.

The SP is $5500, that's the main reason I am doing it. That and I can re-sell it as a basic Hypermotard, likely for at least that much when I am all done nd have pillaged what I want off of it. The goal is net-zero out of pocket

N4teTheGreat · Jul 10, 2017

Given the parts, I'd just swap over the bits you like from the HS which would presumably be the body work and touring focused bits.

beef tits · Jul 11, 2017

What I want more than anything out of this is increased ride height. I did consider swapping cartridges/rear shock out for aftermarket but that won't change the fact that the bike is too short for off road riding.

krolinked · Jul 13, 2017

I have swapped SP forks and triples, rear shock, kickstand onto my Hyperstrada. Not too much work to be honest.

beef tits · Jul 14, 2017

krolinked said:
I have swapped SP forks and triples, rear shock, kickstand onto my Hyperstrada. Not too much work to be honest.

Good to hear, got any pointers? Are any special tools needed to take the triple clamps apart? Where did you source your parts? Does the center stand still work?

RSL · Jul 14, 2017

beef **** said:
Good to hear, got any pointers? Are any special tools needed to take the triple clamps apart? Where did you source your parts? Does the center stand still work?

Any change to the ground clearance will require modifying the center and side stand.

The modification is easy, and can be done by a local welder. The key is measuring the exact change in ground clearance, so you will need a precise before and after measurement.

The key is to remember to get that before measurement.

beef tits · Jul 14, 2017

RSL said:
Any change to the ground clearance will require modifying the center and side stand.

The modification is easy, and can be done by a local welder. The key is measuring the exact change in ground clearance, so you will need a precise before and after measurement.

The key is to remember to get that before measurement.

Makes sense, thanks. One could almost just weld a couple steel pads to the bottoms of the existing center stand pads thick enough to make up the difference. It would add some weight but that's not a top priority here.

dragoontwo · Jul 14, 2017

Depending on how much weight you add to the end of it, it may be a problem. You're going to be adding weight on the end of a lever. You may not add enough to make it move statically, but there could be enough weight to move it once the suspension starts working.

This is an extreme situation, but depending on how much extension you need it may be a valid concern.

monocog007 · Jul 17, 2017

dragoontwo said:
Depending on how much weight you add to the end of it, it may be a problem. You're going to be adding weight on the end of a lever. You may not add enough to make it move statically, but there could be enough weight to move it once the suspension starts working.

This is an extreme situation, but depending on how much extension you need it may be a valid concern.

RSL's idea is probably the right one. Have it extended properly, or just remove it. Adding plates to the bottom might add too much weight and overpower the centerstand springs.

beef tits · Jul 17, 2017

Well I bought it. $5500.

The clutch on this thing is a lot worse (grabbier) than mine on take-off. And it feels like it has no spring back, does the cable need lubed periodically? No slipping but man it does not like starts.

The extra ride height is nice and this thing is WAY stiffer but does take some getting used to. After 3 hours of riding I cannot find my confidence like I have on the HM... but it will come.

Race mode also feels a lot faster... then again I am at such lower altitude than in CO.

beef tits · Jul 17, 2017

Replaced the o2 sensors, the clutch feels a lot better. I guess it was throttle response that was the issue.

That rear heat shield is not fun to remove/replace on the bike.

kuksul08 · Jul 17, 2017

Sweet deal. My experience with the SP is that you'll never really feel comfortable on it, but when ridden hard it really comes into it's own and has seemingly endless capabilities. Grip, ground clearance for days. The stiff suspension performs very well under hard riding.

krolinked · Jul 18, 2017

Why did you replace 02 sensors? And where did you get them, how much were they

monocog007 · Jul 19, 2017

I've bought o2 sensors from Polaris for $110 each at the local dealer. Absolutely identical to the Ducati o2 sensor in every way, and under half the cost.

Here's an amazon link, this fits the front and rear cylinder. If you don't believe me, cross reference both part numbers back to the same bosch sensor. https://www.amazon.com/Polaris-General-Ranger-Oxygen-4016021/dp/B01A06BQNS

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