HStrada or HMotard?

GTC2013 said:

Greetings,

I have just joind this Hyperstrada Forum. For awhile I have been considering the Multistrada but considering how much I will be riding and also how I would be riding, and the power, plus this would be my first bike, I never finalized the deal. Actually I was even told bluntly not to buy the Multistrada as a first bike, and consider a junker to start. Well-this does not work for me, as I never owned anything even close to a junkie status. But anyway - with the arrival of the Hyperstrada - I am back into thinking. Therefore I have several questions:
1. Why would somebody consider a Hyperstrada when it is exactly the same bike as Hypermotard (except the bags and the vizor)?
2. Does the two extra items justifies the price difference (about $3K) more for Hyperstrada?
3. I am 6Ft and read several postings on individuals that sat on the Hyperstrada and felt uncomfortable, stating the bike is small and the seat's pitch is too high in the back.

Appreciate a positive feedback.

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There are more differences then just the two things you mentioned like suspension travel, seat height and more. Take your time and read through the posts here, there is a lot of discussion on the three models. Also compare the bikes on the Ducati site.
Welcome to the site and good luck on picking out the bike that's right for you.

Sorry, but I would not recommend a new bike for a first bike either. Have you at least had the MSF course? Any background on riding a motorcycle?

There a lot of ways to make some serious mistakes on a first bike of any kind, and having a bunch of power at hand is not going to help the learning surviving curve.

SuperTen said:

Sorry, but I would not recommend a new bike for a first bike either. Have you at least had the MSF course? Any background on riding a motorcycle?

There a lot of ways to make some serious mistakes on a first bike of any kind, and having a bunch of power at hand is not going to help the learning surviving curve.

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Buy a junker motorcycle for the following reasons:

1. It's your FIRST motorcycle, not your last.

2. It wont hurt as much seeing your $1000 junker laying on it's side after you drop it as it will seeing your $13000 HyperStrada.

3. Take the MSF course. $300 spent learning how to ride correctly and safely will help you be sure motorcycles are something you want in your life before you put down more money.

4. A lil cheap 250cc motorcycle will hit 90mph at least. You can die falling off a pedal bike. Start small and work your way up.

Ultimately it's your decision but having a dozen motorcycles under my belt it is a responsibility to make sure the future of our sport is given the info to make good decisions. My 2 cents.

I would never recommend buying a new bike as a first bike. You will drop it! That being said buy a nice used bike, a monster 696 that is a couple years old or something. I think you may be taking junker a little to literally.

My first bike was a yamaha r6 and as you already know i was told many time it had to much power to be my first bike. Just like everyone else i ended up dropping it on it side at slow speed making a u-turn. As long as you respect the power of the bike and you dont really mind dropping your brand new ducati go ahead and buy it. But then again Thats just what i think

This I don't understand! Why not buy a new one. I myself did that when I started out riding 16 years ago - I never dropped it A new modern bike with ABS and TC give a new rider a safer and more entertaining ride. So - go for the new one, And Ducati will be a good choice

There is a lot more to the Hyperstrada then bags and a windshield. The seat is supposed to be more comfortable it comes stock with an engine guard and Center stand. Two 12V power outlets, maybe more that I'm forgetting. In one of the original posts on this site someone looked up buying a Hyper SP and adding the bags and windshield, seemed like it was going to cost quite allot.
As for the bike being comfy, I think it depends. I come from a Yamaha R6V, and I love the feel of the bike. It's comfortable enough to travel but enough sport that it will still be fun in the twists. Also I'm 6'

I have a touno and Im a very experienced rider. Truthfully bikes sometimes hit the ground. Frame and axle sliders really limit damage. I fell over on concrete and only scratched the mirror. I think the new hyper would be a great place to start. Electronic aids, high bars, light weight and good steering leverage will make it user friendly. I say go for it.

There is a certain amount of logic to the idea of starting with a small cheap bike but it isn't necessarily the rule.

Starting on a big heavy bike, to me, is more of a problem for the beginner than starting with a lightweight bike like the Ducati.

All the safety features are a definite plus for a new rider. If you fit comfortably on the Hyperstrada and can plant both feet on the ground, then you're half way there. The torque of the Ducati twins make getting accustomed to it easier. The powerband is smooth and easy to manage. So you can ride at your comfort level without being intimidated. Then as you get more miles under your belt, you can twist the throttle to your liking.

They say there are only two types of riders, the ones that have fallen down and the ones that are going to fall down. This statement doesn't differentiate between new riders and experienced riders.

Just be cautious and respectful of the potential danger of riding a motorcycle and more importantly focus on all the cage drivers around you. They are more of a threat than dropping your new Ducati and should you drop it one day then you have joined the ranks of the hundreds of thousands of motorcyclists around the world that have done the same.

My first bike (and I've had 45) was a Honda CL350 Scrambler. I was a novice rider but had ridden a few other bikes previously. Well the first week I owned it, I rode back to the dealer to buy a luggage rack and as I pulled into the parking lot I hit some gravel and went down. Very embarrassing but not life threatening. Just an experience to add to my list of stories to tell over the years.

Buy the Duc, ride safe and enjoy one of the best motorcycle brands in the world.

There some things you learn about on your first bike that makes it an easier pill to swallow on a beater, like: slimy new tires; cold tires; what happens when you lock up the front tire; mid-corner braking; forgetting to remove wheel lock; is it really in neutral?; etc.

A lot of these things are learned the hardway. My advice to new riders - yes, buy the frame sliders.

I say go for it as well. My first bike was a Honda cb500 (junior silver wing). Heavy, but $500... (that was all I could afford). Sure I dropped it. More than once. The hyper would be easier to handle because of the size, weight, abs, riding stance.

GTC2013 said:

Greetings,

3. I am 6Ft and read several postings on individuals that sat on the Hyperstrada and felt uncomfortable, stating the bike is small and the seat's pitch is too high in the back. Appreciate a positive feedback.

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The only way to find out if the seat height, position of pegs, etc., suits you, is to take a demo ride asap on a new Hyperstrada. Nobody can give you an idea of how it will feel for you that will come close to your own experience. And - who knows - you might even suss-out some other shortcomings (besides height, seat comfort mentioned) that might make it appear unsuited. On the other hand...

I'd very much like to hear the outcome and your ultimate decisiosn...

Good luck, whatever the choice.

L of S

outer Brisbane, SE Queensland, Australia

My dealer went to the dealer demo event in San Diego last month. He's 5'9" and said the bike felt perfect. I'm sure it was at standard ride height, too. Of course, he could have just been trying to sell bikes...in which he succeeded.

Yeah, it isn't like we need a big push!

I’ve been looking at the sp and the strada a lot. I've come to the conclusion that the sp is worth $1300 more. I just like all of the bling. The color looks sweet in person. I really don’t like the silver frames. Between the aluminum handlebars, forged wheels, adj suspension, radial mc, and very expensive carbon parts I felt it’s a better deal overall. I can add strada parts that I want for less than $1600. It would cost close to $6000 to add sp parts to strada. I have been thinking about the sp ever since I sat on it at the motorcycle show. The sp just looks fabulous in person!

GTC2013 said:

Greetings,

I have just joind this Hyperstrada Forum. For awhile I have been considering the Multistrada but considering how much I will be riding and also how I would be riding, and the power, plus this would be my first bike, I never finalized the deal. Actually I was even told bluntly not to buy the Multistrada as a first bike, and consider a junker to start. Well-this does not work for me, as I never owned anything even close to a junkie status. But anyway - with the arrival of the Hyperstrada - I am back into thinking. Therefore I have several questions:
1. Why would somebody consider a Hyperstrada when it is exactly the same bike as Hypermotard (except the bags and the vizor)?
2. Does the two extra items justifies the price difference (about $3K) more for Hyperstrada?
3. I am 6Ft and read several postings on individuals that sat on the Hyperstrada and felt uncomfortable, stating the bike is small and the seat's pitch is too high in the back.

Appreciate a positive feedback.

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1. Because it's a convenient package deal.
2. No, it doesn't. But it's a convenient package deal and it makes sense for a lot of people to just buy the bike they want off the showroom floor and not have to deal with buying accessories.
3. That's not a question, it's a statement.
4. If you're not a 'show-off rider,' then why are you looking at buying a sexy Italian bike? And who said Ducati is the best? Ducati makes exceptional motorcycles and it's people like you that make it all too easy for the rest of us Ducati owners to look like squids and posers. It's people like you who compromise the artistic potential of the brand. It's people like you who inspire Ducati to make their groundbreaking Multistrada 1200 into a dual-spark machine with gimmicky semi-active suspension so it's easier to putt around town on but less fun to ride to its full potential on a canyon road.
5. If you want to ride a motorcycle, go learn on dirt and figure out how to handily control the machine so you're not a direct threat to your own safety and the safety of those on the road around you. Otherwise just go buy a BMW motorcycle because that's a car on two wheels so you should do fine with that.
Good luck.