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HStrada or HMotard?

1. Why would somebody consider a Hyperstrada when it is exactly the same bike as Hypermotard (except the bags and the vizor)?
2. Does the two extra items justifies the price difference (about $3K) more for

Hello.
The hyperstrada has more than two extra items than the hypermotard. I qouoted them on Pro Italia: Home

Part #97180061A
Ducati Hypermotard & Hyperstrada Touring Windscreen Qty: $193.70
Part #96880061A
Ducati Hypermotard & Hyperstrada Touring Low Seat Qty: $305.90
Part #97080011A
Ducati Hypermotard & Hyperstrada Center Stand Kit Qty: $244.70
Part #96780141A
Ducati Hypermotard Passenger Grab Handles Qty: $129.60
Part #96780131A
Ducati Hypermotard Side Panniers Qty: $891.50
Part #97180071A
Ducati Hypermotard Engine Guard Kit. Qty: $193.70

It all adds up to $1959.10 and that is if you want to install everything yourself and not pay installation fees at the dealer.

With that being said the base hypermotard costs 11995 USD and if you add all the extra goodies it would be 13.954 USD which is a couple of hundred bucks more than the hyperstrada @ 13.295 USD

And the last a probably the most important advantage of the hyperstrada is that it comes in sexy white, eventhough ive heard that the red one is faster. Lol

I hope I cleared that one up
 
What about the mounting hardware for panniers? That's a $250 part just for optional center bag. Someone mentioned Strada seat may not be simple swap for Motard conversion in an older thread.
 
Well on the pro italia website the touring seat for both the hyperstrada and the hypermotard is listed with the same part number. And for the center bag I asked them on an email and they said I would only need the passenger grab handles And the top case comes with the quick disconnect hardware that attaches to it (no extra hardware needed). And the side panniers also come with all the hardware needed for installation
 
1. Because it's a convenient package deal.
2. No, it doesn't. But it's a convenient package deal and it makes sense for a lot of people to just buy the bike they want off the showroom floor and not have to deal with buying accessories.
3. That's not a question, it's a statement.
4. If you're not a 'show-off rider,' then why are you looking at buying a sexy Italian bike? And who said Ducati is the best? Ducati makes exceptional motorcycles and it's people like you that make it all too easy for the rest of us Ducati owners to look like squids and posers. It's people like you who compromise the artistic potential of the brand. It's people like you who inspire Ducati to make their groundbreaking Multistrada 1200 into a dual-spark machine with gimmicky semi-active suspension so it's easier to putt around town on but less fun to ride to its full potential on a canyon road.
5. If you want to ride a motorcycle, go learn on dirt and figure out how to handily control the machine so you're not a direct threat to your own safety and the safety of those on the road around you. Otherwise just go buy a BMW motorcycle because that's a car on two wheels so you should do fine with that.
Good luck.


HEI..HEI...hold on your horses...! Shooting from the hip with all your guns??? People like me?...what do you mean by that? Are you pointing fingers here? Just feel like the tone of your writing is very aggressive and has an attitude! Is this how you also ride?

What do you mean by 'People like you'? People with money that want to get what they want and when they want just because they like it? People like me that does not give a damn on the fact that you look like "squids and poisers"...when you ride also a Ducati??? I do not want to buy a Ducati to show off...I just like it because of the design, heritage, safety and look. Simple. I am not a punk looking to buy a sport bike to show off in traffic or risk my life just for fun! Based on the way you write I bet you do just that - and I wish you the best!

I would never buy a japanese bike - and BMW - yes a potential option...but NO! Because people like me Ducati built a bike like Multistrada? Well you should hail to people like me then! Yes - that is called progress - moving ahead from what you know or are comfortable with and improving the technology, safety and experience.

I specifically mentioned in my posting that I would appreciate a positive feedback...constructive...from this forum, that I can use in making a final decision - but not even close to what you delivered here. Do stay out of this posting please - I will not benefit at all of reading anything from you!
 
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HEI..HEI...hold on your horses...! Shooting from the hip with all your guns??? People like me?...what do you mean by that? Are you pointing fingers here? Just feel like the tone of your writing is very aggressive and has an attitude! Is this how you also ride?

What do you mean by 'People like you'? People with money that want to get what they want and when they want just because they like it? People like me that does not give a damn on the fact that you look like "squids and poisers"...when you ride also a Ducati??? I do not want to buy a Ducati to show off...I just like it because of the design, heritage, safety and look. Simple. I am not a punk looking to buy a sport bike to show off in traffic or risk my life just for fun! Based on the way you write I bet you do just that - and I wish you the best!

I would never buy a japanese bike - and BMW - yes a potential option...but NO! Because people like me Ducati built a bike like Multistrada? Well you should hail to people like me then! Yes - that is called progress - moving ahead from what you know or are comfortable with and improving the technology, safety and experience.

I specifically mentioned in my posting that I would appreciate a positive feedback...constructive...from this forum, that I can use in making a final decision - but not even close to what you delivered here. Do stay out of this posting please - I will not benefit at all of reading anything from you!


To quote the quiz show guy at the end of Billy Madison, "At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

You didn't inspire the Multistrada 1200's first incarnation, you inspired the 2013 model that my GRANDMA could ride! What do you know about progress in regards to motorcycles? Are you certain they've 'improved the technology' of the bike? Do you have quantitative data that show the new model is 'safer' than the old? Because IMO they certainly have not improved the experience! Motorcycling is a skill. It is not for everyone and this current trend of drowning the bikes in technological AIDS just makes them more and more mundane every year. Manufacturers are now having to devise new aids to perceptively counteract the cumbersome 'safety' aids so the rider can obtain some sort of sensation from the motorcycle. We've already got cars that park themselves and stop autonomously when something's in the way that we can't see, because apparently we're incapable of being aware of our surroundings. And since motorcycling is inherently more dangerous than driving a car, how long until motorcycles drive themselves, too? And when they malfunction, man are we going to be in for it.

You like Ducati's heritage...what, that they used to make toasters and cameras, then opportunistically got into the motorcycle biz? Try Triumph if you appreciate heritage. Their safety? Ducati has one of the highest warranty claims per unit ratios of all manufacturers. Triumph has the lowest, +2 for Hinckley. Design and look - fair enough, I'm with you there. And well done leaving out what makes a Ducati a Ducati: it's MOTOR! People like you, I'll tell ya...Thank you for saying the tone of my writing is aggressive and has an attitude, I feel pretty bad-*** now.

No, but seriously...
Your association between wealthy people and frivolous spending is incredibly ignorant. Most wealthy riders (riders, not just people who buy a sexy bike and leave it in the garage for 20 years) have been riding all their life and have a deep respect for motorbikes and the joy they can bring. You can hurt yourself and others very easily on a motorbike. All that anyone here is asking you to do is to get into riding the right way- not frivolously, not on a whim, not because you can get what you want when you want and you like it. When you first begin riding, you can't even fathom what safe riding is. I know because I've been there as everyone else here has. We are just asking that you humble yourself before making motorcycles a part of your life. If you can do that, you will be safer for yourself and everyone else, and you will get so much more out of riding. Good luck
 
Not all constructive feed back is positive. And I complete agree that safety and electronic aids are taking away the experience. I've also noticed you're attitude toward Japanese bikes is very ignorant, they have done more for motorcycles then you can imagine.
 
Not all constructive feed back is positive. And I complete agree that safety and electronic aids are taking away the experience. I've also noticed you're attitude toward Japanese bikes is very ignorant, they have done more for motorcycles then you can imagine.

+1
 
+1 again, while the Japanese manufacturers may not always have the most to offer creatively, they certainly have a knack for refinement and improvement of pre-existing concepts. And when they do branch out and create something new, it's usually pretty damn cool.
 
Hi GTC 2013. My 2 cents:

Yes I did learn on a used dual purpose 250, but that was because I was 16 at the time and could not afford anything else!

On the flip side, a friend of mine just started riding 2 years ago and he upgraded 3 times because he started with a 400 and quickly outgrew that, the 650 that followed etc. Within a year he ended up with a Triumph speed triple.

Yes you might drop it, but it can happen to more experienced riders as well.

I think the wide bars and fairly low weight make this a machine easy to ride. And at 110hp it is fun but not overwhelming like a Tuono V4 + you feel the speed a bit more than on large GTs - which may prevent going too fast too soon.

As others are saying - go for a demo ride on a few bikes to compare, and follow your instinct. These purchases are not totally rational anyway...

As far as the added price for the strada vs Motard it's just out of convenience. I am 5'10 and the seat height is good but limit (high). At 6' I assume it would be a good fit.

Good luck!
 
To quote the quiz show guy at the end of Billy Madison, "At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it."

You didn't inspire the Multistrada 1200's first incarnation, you inspired the 2013 model that my GRANDMA could ride! What do you know about progress in regards to motorcycles? Are you certain they've 'improved the technology' of the bike? Do you have quantitative data that show the new model is 'safer' than the old? Because IMO they certainly have not improved the experience! Motorcycling is a skill. It is not for everyone and this current trend of drowning the bikes in technological AIDS just makes them more and more mundane every year. Manufacturers are now having to devise new aids to perceptively counteract the cumbersome 'safety' aids so the rider can obtain some sort of sensation from the motorcycle. We've already got cars that park themselves and stop autonomously when something's in the way that we can't see, because apparently we're incapable of being aware of our surroundings. And since motorcycling is inherently more dangerous than driving a car, how long until motorcycles drive themselves, too? And when they malfunction, man are we going to be in for it.

You like Ducati's heritage...what, that they used to make toasters and cameras, then opportunistically got into the motorcycle biz? Try Triumph if you appreciate heritage. Their safety? Ducati has one of the highest warranty claims per unit ratios of all manufacturers. Triumph has the lowest, +2 for Hinckley. Design and look - fair enough, I'm with you there. And well done leaving out what makes a Ducati a Ducati: it's MOTOR! People like you, I'll tell ya...Thank you for saying the tone of my writing is aggressive and has an attitude, I feel pretty bad-*** now.

No, but seriously...
Your association between wealthy people and frivolous spending is incredibly ignorant. Most wealthy riders (riders, not just people who buy a sexy bike and leave it in the garage for 20 years) have been riding all their life and have a deep respect for motorbikes and the joy they can bring. You can hurt yourself and others very easily on a motorbike. All that anyone here is asking you to do is to get into riding the right way- not frivolously, not on a whim, not because you can get what you want when you want and you like it. When you first begin riding, you can't even fathom what safe riding is. I know because I've been there as everyone else here has. We are just asking that you humble yourself before making motorcycles a part of your life. If you can do that, you will be safer for yourself and everyone else, and you will get so much more out of riding. Good luck

This kind of nonsense is why I pretty much hate forums.
 
My first bike was a BMW R1200r. Brand new. If you can afford it, buy what you like. I chose hypermotard just because I liked the black color. The extra stuff you have on the strada you can get later.
 
I learned on a dirt bike when I was seven, 29 years ago. Since then I have ridden pretty much everything under the sun on all types of surfaces. Does that make me more able to handle a larger bike with more power than someone who just started riding? Yes, absolutely. Do I believe a beginner could handle a Hyperstrada with the power mode set to 75hp (low response)? Yes, absolutely.

If I were you, I would buy the Hyper, kick up the DTC, ABS to 2 and power response to LOW. Put 3,000 miles on it then start dialing back all the electronic intervention.

My 2 cents.
 
didn't see this thread before my wife and i bought the hystrada last month. our choices were between a monster 796, hymotard, hystrada and duke 690.

rode my first bike in 1994, a pre-owned yamaha 750cc triple, only because that was what i can afford then. sold it four years later to pay for the wedding and haven't touched a motorcycle since. i was a beginner 15 years ago, i'm still a beginner now. yes, people did insist/advice me to get a beater or something cheaper, not necessarily pre-owned while i re-learn the ropes. but i thought otherwise. i don't intend to get the "adrenalin rush" with the bike, not then not now, so i don't think i'm a danger to myself nor other motorists and pedestrians. i'm a trained parachutist so i freefall off airplanes if i needed my fixes. i get more high, literally and figuratively

sure it wouldn't hurt to have fun with a ducati on weekends but the main reason i got the bike (apart from the italian sexiness) is to run errands in my spare time... pay bills, pick up groceries, etc. the wife's kinda busy with work so i share the chores. with the traffic we have, an hour of commute on two wheels is multiplied by a factor of 3-4 on 4 wheels. the hystrada with panniers makes sense for this purpose. someone might ask why i didn't get a duke 390 with luggage options or anything similar instead. quick answer is because my wife can afford a fancy bike... it pays to marry rich :D . it also makes running errands more fun on a ducati ;)

so if you can afford it, whatever your motives are, i think you should buy the fancy bike you want for the purpose you intend it to be. it's your money. just drive responsively
 
This I don't understand! Why not buy a new one. I myself did that when I started out riding 16 years ago - I never dropped it:) A new modern bike with ABS and TC give a new rider a safer and more entertaining ride. So - go for the new one, And Ducati will be a good choice:)

I don't know what kind of training and motorcycle exams one has to take in all the different countries.
In the Netherlands they are quite difficult. About 20 to 30 lessons and special training like u-turns, emergency stops etc. 2 exams and then, after depending on age you can ride a certain bike with a specific power setting.
Someone with the age of 18 cannot ride a bike with more than 25 kw of power.

If GTC2013 would like to buy a new Hyper, go ahead, I would stick to a Monster 696 with a few years on it.

Regards.