I been getting this slow cranking/hard to start here lately.. it does not do it all the time. kinda makes it tough to take to the dealer when I have no idea when it will do it again. i rode 70 miles today and it did it about half way thru my ride. Anybody have the same problem? how did you fix it?
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Yup, I'm really conflicted about what to do. It is the starter motor. I already had it replaced by the dealer at around 7,000 miles because the bike would struggle to start and require 3-4 tries. So they replaced the motor, and it's all been good but I'm at 11,000 miles now and it's taking 2 tries and struggling to start again. So, what do we do? Get another motor and have it go back in 4k miles? Does the bike require starter motor changes more often than oil changes?
There has got to be a better solution.
If you haven't had it already, get it replaced under warranty, so at least it's on record and if it fails again after warranty they might goodwill it.
Oh, and if it only happens when warmed up, that's definitely it.
There has got to be a better solution.
If you haven't had it already, get it replaced under warranty, so at least it's on record and if it fails again after warranty they might goodwill it.
Oh, and if it only happens when warmed up, that's definitely it.
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Mine got noticeable slower to crank at around 8K miles. Still catches after 3-4 cranks, not attempts to start. I've never had to release starter and thumb again, unless battery was dead.
Wish I had known better before warranty was up. The starter is not easy to replace. I did just get a larger Shorai replacement with more CCA. Interested to see if this hastens the start sequence.
Wish I had known better before warranty was up. The starter is not easy to replace. I did just get a larger Shorai replacement with more CCA. Interested to see if this hastens the start sequence.
Do the symptoms look like this? I just sen't mine in for a warranty claim for the starter motor. They claim the new replacement is made by Denso and has solved the design flaws of the previous starter motor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAp0SAwtMEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAp0SAwtMEo
Good input. I just did a little research. It seems Ducati has updated this part from a 'TAIGENE' Taiwanese brand to 'Denso' Japanese brand.
The latest part number is 27040104A. The old part numbers are: 27040127A, 27040101A, 27040103A.
I wonder if they replaced my stock one with an older motor before the Denso's came into circulation.
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Fingers crossed I can get mine to croak before my warranty is up in October. Battery was on the tender for weeks, 30 degrees F outside, bike slowly kicked to life.
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My starter definitely turns a bit faster with the new Shorai battery. Not as crisp as first 8K miles, but better. Like I said, my short commute was hell on my stock lead-acid. The weight difference between the two batts is insane! It doesn't click until you hold both in your hands.
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Yeah, I already put a Shorai in my 900 monster, the weight difference that high up on the bike made a noticeable difference.
Weight is less important to me on the Hyperstrada because most of the time the bike is packed with some kind of gear. The only thing stopping me though from doing the same on the Hyperstrada is that in the colder months, I've got heated gear. On top of that, the lithium batteries tend to struggle more than lead-acid when it's cold out. We'll see how long the battery lasts in my monster, and when it comes time that my Yuasa dies, I'll make my decision.
Yes, LI-ion has it's drawbacks, of course. I'm a woodworker and switched to a couple of LI-ion tools this winter. I still cannot believe the sheer power and torque they produce, and so consistently. You can easily break tools or fasteners if not careful.. makes me curious to see what it will do for the bike... what I don't know is how well they last.... but I am game to try.
Granted, if I lived in Minnesota, I'd worry a bit more about performance in colder weather ;-) .... we might go above 80 degrees here today... the LI-ion tools worked really well outdoors during our "winter"....
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My monster used to kill Lead-acids every other year, even with a tender. I'm now on the second year with the Shorai, so we'll see how long it lasts.
It's phenomenal how much faster the bike is to start with Lithium.
Mine is about 16m old and I have same strange cracks while cranking too. Is that a symptom of starter fault?
Want to get it fixed while warranty is on
Hi guys, I just got my bike back from the dealer today and they have indeed replaced the starter motor with the new Denso unit.
From my impressions, I could not tell the difference in starting sound between the old unit and this new unit. Hopefully this Denso unit will not fail prematurely like the original. It also appears that this is a design flaw and not mileage related, as mine failed at 2,237 km and the bike is 5 months old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vandx7R5Rok
From my impressions, I could not tell the difference in starting sound between the old unit and this new unit. Hopefully this Denso unit will not fail prematurely like the original. It also appears that this is a design flaw and not mileage related, as mine failed at 2,237 km and the bike is 5 months old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vandx7R5Rok
Looks like a hours worth of work tops. I don't think they even took off my crank guard, I just noticed the ding on the edge in the picture.
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