The Suspension Thread!!! BOOING
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Elka won't do anything without 10 confirmed orders. That might not be too hard if you consider the strada and the motard. They would need a donor bike once the orders were confirmed to start development, and they are located in Canada (too far for me to just drop off my bike).
I wouldn't get another rear shock unless it had remote preload. I wonder if Penske can add that option (for a cost).
I wouldn't get another rear shock unless it had remote preload. I wonder if Penske can add that option (for a cost).
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I haven't used them but many people swear by racetech - certainly worth looking into - especially if it's mainly a spring upgrade that's needed for the rear. Thinking of the emulators for the front - if winter gets dull and I want to screw with the bike.
Yes they can. The way this will most likely go down is 1 group order first with my bike as the donor bike. then made to order for everyone elsewhere for a bit higher price. This will be a sweet deal for us guys.
I contacted Mupo and they could provide the kit but I would have to send the forks to them to make the changes necessary for an LS.
Having the LS model seems to restrict my options. I think there is about an inch difference in length between the LS and standard. The stanchions seem to be about the same length so I guess the sliders are longer.
I will need to keep looking around but I am considering trying to find another set of forks (standard) deciding on what changes to make and dropping them down through the yokes.
If anyone can comment on the good idea/bad idea let alone finding another pair of forks I wou appreciate it.
Having the LS model seems to restrict my options. I think there is about an inch difference in length between the LS and standard. The stanchions seem to be about the same length so I guess the sliders are longer.
I will need to keep looking around but I am considering trying to find another set of forks (standard) deciding on what changes to make and dropping them down through the yokes.
If anyone can comment on the good idea/bad idea let alone finding another pair of forks I wou appreciate it.
Yes MUPO has them for the normal height bikes here.
Mupo Srl - Kit cartridge SP
You guys are really going to have to buy custom fork cartridges for the LS model. It's a shame Marz didn't think about doing it as they did the SP Forks.
Mupo Srl - Kit cartridge SP
You guys are really going to have to buy custom fork cartridges for the LS model. It's a shame Marz didn't think about doing it as they did the SP Forks.
Speaking of MUPO suspension. Ducati of Omaha just became a mupo dealer so our suspension dreams have been answered. We will be able to order the fork cartridge kit and shock directly from DUC of Omaha set up with the height,riding style etc plus custom valving included. Our prayers have been answered suspension wise for our bikes. I will post the direct links once they are added to their site. I'm also gonna ask about a forum deal for us as they do over at the 1199.com that I am also on. Stay tuned for the business.
How does the mupo compare to racetech emulators? The racetech set up is something around $5-600.
Well MUPO is the only suspension company that at the base price you get the entire cartridge, forks or shock built to you for no additional charge including valving. TTheh cartridges for our bikes are full fork cartridges. Even andreanoni isn't a full set. They are the suspension supplier of the Ducati SSTK bike from wsbk and they took first. Many other details that make them a lot better. Worldwide them and Ohlins are tied at #1. Now we finally have a dealer in the USA wooo
Some details for the Cart. and Shock.
Shock
Part# A02DUC042
Cylinder in steel ø 46 mm (in steel for AB1)
The piston rod ø 16 mm and coated in PVD
The heads and the lower joints are CNC made in hard anodised Ergal
Adjustment features:
Rebound 40 positions
Compression 24 positions
Spring preload (C-spanner) or optional hydraulic spring preload
Adjustable length
Fork Cart.
Part# C03DUC047
The cartridge is 25 mm in diameter and made in Ergal coated and hard anodized
The piston rod is 12 mm in diameter and made in Ergal
The progressive system pistons are 25 mm in diameter and complete with D.U. bushings
Guiding bush and floating piston rod
Compression needles
SAE 5 Mupo racing oil
Spring in chrome-silicon steel with Ergal guiding spring Fork, top caps, with spring preload on bearings
Adjustment features:
Rebound 40 positions
Compression 48 positions
Manual spring preload 30 positions (15 mm)
The following set/custom for each rider by weight/riding style/riding setting(ie Track,Road/Track,Road)
Springs, Oil Weight, Valves!
Fork : A modification kit designed to transform o/e fitted front forks into competition ones. Done simply by replacing the whole group of original cartridges with our Cartridge SP, fitted with larger pistons and a progressive system, altogether guaranteeing more precision and better performance.
This kind of cartridge is specifically studied for the motorcycle where the hydraulic adjustment is only in one leg.
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I am following up with Mupo and I intend to send them the forks for my LS model in January, avoiding the holiday period shutdowns
Awesome news david. Lmk the outcome ill be doing mine the same time but in the us.
Suspension Upgrade
Done my upgrqade.
My Dealer send my fork to Wilbers.
Go new springs and Oil.
Fork is much better now.
First it is as stock then after about 5 0% Travel it becomes stiffer.
It does not bottom out anymore
Total Cost around 350 € max.
I gozt it a little cheaper as my fork was the guinea pig..
Done my upgrqade.
My Dealer send my fork to Wilbers.
Go new springs and Oil.
Fork is much better now.
First it is as stock then after about 5 0% Travel it becomes stiffer.
It does not bottom out anymore
Total Cost around 350 € max.
I gozt it a little cheaper as my fork was the guinea pig..
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Looks like he only got fluid and springs...for $430-ish US. RT did mine for under $500 with custom valving. I did deliver and pick them up myself, so I did not pay for shipping which could easily be another $100 each way w/secure packaging and insurance.
That said, it's the springs and preload that need the most help. More of the first, less of the second.
That said, it's the springs and preload that need the most help. More of the first, less of the second.
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It's a bit lost in translation, but that Mupo kit looks like it still only gives you damping in one fork leg...let's see the pricing.
I'll say it yet again - except for preload at the rear w/passenger, most of us will never need adjustability if the setup is correct for your weight and riding style to begin with. All the adjusters in the world will not make up for an inadequate spring rate!
So I was at the NY Motorcycle Show yesterday and met the owner of a dealership, who decided to recruit a 20-year Italian master tech straight from Italy. Then he introduced me to him. I asked if he knew Mupo. Says they're the best. I look forward to hearing more info on them and our ability to get them here.
My LS front fork legs are now on their way to Mupo in Italy. Should be there on the 12th.
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First, a gentle hint...if you include some info about your bike in your signature, folks could give more accurate answers to your questions. I'll assume you have a Strada, though.
Then the humor...you ride manly? Bare chested?
Okay okay...My wife and I weigh about 330 in our mesh gear, and we have carried another 20 - 30 pounds in the saddlebags plus 10 in the tankbag. I found that I needed to run the adjuster all the way in to keep the ride height I wanted.
That said, we got a bit sideways on a patch of sand once and when the tire grabbed again she dragged her toe...with her foot still on the peg! So if we rode two-up more often I'd probably change the rear spring. The front already has stiffer springs, see my posts on the subject.
Enjoy your ride...
