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Touring on the Hyperstrada

Jim939UK

Jim939UK

Joined Apr 2019
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Morning, just looking for any help regarding an upcoming trip on the Hyperstrada as we are doing the NC500 (Scotland, UK) and will be covering around 1500 miles or so over 9/10 days.

I'm thinking of a tail bag as don't think I'll have enough room with just the panniers. Any suggestions, for just some extra space without going massive?

Also, I've never made use of the 12v sockets on the bike but thinking I'll get a phone mount and charger for the trip so I can use Google maps if needed - again any suggestions or help would be great!

Cheers

Jim
 
Good luck with that Jim. I'm somewhat ashamed to say we are contemplating taking the camper-van up there before too long, with nothing more exciting than a couple of e-bikes strapped on behind. As far as luggage and the HS are concerned, I'm adamant that they won't ever meet, not least because I've taken all the mounts off! I guess I could fix a loose tail bag on if I needed to, just like on the ST4 with the DP seat and it's hidden anchors.
Cheers,
Nick
 
nickwst4 said:
Good luck with that Jim. I'm somewhat ashamed to say we are contemplating taking the camper-van up there before too long, with nothing more exciting than a couple of e-bikes strapped on behind. As far as luggage and the HS are concerned, I'm adamant that they won't ever meet, not least because I've taken all the mounts off! I guess I could fix a loose tail bag on if I needed to, just like on the ST4 with the DP seat and it's hidden anchors.
Cheers,
Nick
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Cheers! Yes, it's a bit of an adventure and the others will mainly be on BMW GS's so far better equipped than the HS. But I'm hoping it should be good fun still. I'll bolt my mounting bracket back on as don't have it on normally.
 
When are you going Jim? I'm doing the same thing myself at the start of June. Planning on camping for a week as we go around. I'll be taking a van to Edinburgh then riding from there myself. I've got a set of Givi panniers which look a little smaller than the standard bags, but should be mostly watertight, and I'm going to make up an aluminium plate to bolt across the top of the pillion rails that I can strap a tent, sleeping bag and folding chair to.

As for the 12v, I've got an adapter coming to USB, then I was planning on buying and fitting a Quadlock wireless charger/mount somehow to the bars. The bars are quite busy already but it's not a huge clamp.That'll keep my phone charged whilst I use google maps etc. The bike already has a GIpro gear indicator fitted. I've never had one before. What are the chances that this comes off one of the 12V connections?

Will you be wild camping like us? If not then your kit list will be tiny in comparison. I've done a B&B bike trip before on an R6 for 5 days with a small rucksack and a tank bag. I'd have thought the panniers would have plenty of space for you if that's the plan.
 
Some folks have mentioned that adding a luggage mount directly to the grab rail without support can crack the rail if enough weight is placed on it - I didn't want to worry about that so I found a givi rack (their SRA7403) model which mounted quite easily and has two metal support arms that come up from the subframe.
I've got an Oxford tail bag on it for now but I'm on the lookout for a good deal on a Givi Monokey case... the rack was affordable, and feels like it could hold a decent amount of weight. You might consider it - at the very least it'll give you mounting options even for a some kind of rucksack (and still allow you to carry a passenger if needed).

the DIN mounts on the HS are positioned a little funky for me (good for heated clothes I guess?) I've got a battery tender plug wired in under the tail, and might just run a long USB cable from my USB adapter to my phone mount at some point...
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That NC500 looks amazing! I'd love to do it someday...
 
Jim,

Can't speak highly enough of Mosko Moto luggage (www.moskomoto.com). Not cheap, but the Backcountry tail bag has all the features a commuter or super adventure seeker could ask for. Quality is unmatched. 100% element proof and has decent backpack rigging integrated. I have the Backcountry 30L, and just bought a 2x MSR fuel pouch that fits via MOLLE.

For a cheaper approach, I had an Oxford waterproof tail duffel. Very affordable and did the trick. Would recommend a dry bag as it won't be included. I think Oxford is a UK brand and pretty popular, so probably in stock near you.

ROK straps are amazing and I wormed these around the pannier mounts to hold my Oxford in place. Went with better ratcheting straps for the Mosko setup but still keep the ROK's on hand. They have a basic cinch strap combined with a section of bungie. Really good and really secure. Also keep a cheap net cover in case I have to throw some extra gear on in a pinch.

For 12V power, be careful. Our outlets take a powerlet adapter that is not standard in the US. I think it's a BMW design that is probably standard across Europe. Other note - get one that has some kind of securing collar or ziptie that thing. I had one with a locking collar and it still fell off. The Strada has a beefy alternator and can handle the draw.

Cheers and good luck.
 
gatdammit said:
ROK straps are amazing and I wormed these around the pannier mounts to hold my Oxford in place. Went with better ratcheting straps for the Mosko setup but still keep the ROK's on hand. They have a basic cinch strap combined with a section of bungie. Really good and really secure. Also keep a cheap net cover in case I have to throw some extra gear on in a pinch.
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Good call on the ROK straps! Those are always in my tail bag, you never know when you need to secure something odd-shaped at strange times. They handled securing my work bag (With company computer) on occasional 240mi round trips to headquarters with no issues.
 
Enreves said:
When are you going Jim? I'm doing the same thing myself at the start of June. Planning on camping for a week as we go around. I'll be taking a van to Edinburgh then riding from there myself. I've got a set of Givi panniers which look a little smaller than the standard bags, but should be mostly watertight, and I'm going to make up an aluminium plate to bolt across the top of the pillion rails that I can strap a tent, sleeping bag and folding chair to.

As for the 12v, I've got an adapter coming to USB, then I was planning on buying and fitting a Quadlock wireless charger/mount somehow to the bars. The bars are quite busy already but it's not a huge clamp.That'll keep my phone charged whilst I use google maps etc. The bike already has a GIpro gear indicator fitted. I've never had one before. What are the chances that this comes off one of the 12V connections?

Will you be wild camping like us? If not then your kit list will be tiny in comparison. I've done a B&B bike trip before on an R6 for 5 days with a small rucksack and a tank bag. I'd have thought the panniers would have plenty of space for you if that's the plan.
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We are heading up there Friday 4th June and going clockwise from Fort William. Not camping, got all the accommodation booked so a mixture of hotels and airbnbs. Staying in Edinburgh on the way back for a night or possibly 2.

Hopefully, I can travel fairly light and won't need an extra bag but thought might be handy if needed. Saw the Givi seat roll bag so thought that could an expensive option for extra litres - there is a 30lt one for £40 and it's fully waterproof.

Will have a look for an adaptor as thinking of getting the Quad lock but need to sort a new phone first as mine is on the way out.
 
Jim, yes, "DIN" for motorcycle charge ports is the right gear. Just ziptie that bad boy in place and a little waterproofing would be smart. If you want something permanent, you can look up how some people tapped a hot line from the battery. You wouldn't have to worry about theft, just protecting from the elements when not in use.
 
gatdammit said:
Jim,

Can't speak highly enough of Mosko Moto luggage (www.moskomoto.com). Not cheap, but the Backcountry tail bag has all the features a commuter or super adventure seeker could ask for. Quality is unmatched. 100% element proof and has decent backpack rigging integrated. I have the Backcountry 30L, and just bought a 2x MSR fuel pouch that fits via MOLLE.

For a cheaper approach, I had an Oxford waterproof tail duffel. Very affordable and did the trick. Would recommend a dry bag as it won't be included. I think Oxford is a UK brand and pretty popular, so probably in stock near you.

ROK straps are amazing and I wormed these around the pannier mounts to hold my Oxford in place. Went with better ratcheting straps for the Mosko setup but still keep the ROK's on hand. They have a basic cinch strap combined with a section of bungie. Really good and really secure. Also keep a cheap net cover in case I have to throw some extra gear on in a pinch.

For 12V power, be careful. Our outlets take a powerlet adapter that is not standard in the US. I think it's a BMW design that is probably standard across Europe. Other note - get one that has some kind of securing collar or ziptie that thing. I had one with a locking collar and it still fell off. The Strada has a beefy alternator and can handle the draw.

Cheers and good luck.
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gatdammit said:
Jim, yes, "DIN" for motorcycle charge ports is the right gear. Just ziptie that bad boy in place and a little waterproofing would be smart. If you want something permanent, you can look up how some people tapped a hot line from the battery. You wouldn't have to worry about theft, just protecting from the elements when not in use.
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Cheers for the info above as well. I'm thinking a small tail bag if needed but might do a trial pack and see how much I fit in the 2 panniers first.

Yes, will get it zip-tied on and some waterproofing as no doubt the good all British weather will mean lots of rain but fingers crossed it's not!
 
I had wondered about borrowing the GPS port myself and wiring in a 12v>5v USB converter somewhere near the clocks. Using the DIN Port means you don't need to worry bout a whole host of stuff though, as I would guess they are already fused in the socket/adaptor at the very least.

I've just bought the cheapest DIN/USB adaptor on ebay I could find (£4 delivered I think). I'll wrap the whole thing in a plastic bag with a cable tie and run a long USB cable up to near the yokes. Then I don't have to worry about mounting the USB port itself.
 
Here's my touring setup for example which I used on the wild atlantic way last year
- Tailpack strapped to a luggage plate mounted on the grab rail. If I need more stuff replace the tailpack with a kriega US20. I've had a big stop start battery strapped to that on a short journey I don't think there will be any issue carrying just a few kgs on there.
- Nomax tank bag
- Quad lock mount and usb direct connection to battery. I also have a DIN usb connection on the handlebar but it keeps blowing the accessory fuse.
- If I take a tent I strap it to the rear seat using the underseat loops and rokstraps. I could also take my kriega R25 but at that point I would need to be questioning the need for taking that amount of stuff.

Have fun on the NC500 also on my bucket list!
 

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I recently picked up a cheaper Amazon phone mount as I needed it pretty immediately and am very pleased with it. TruActive Phone Holder £16.99

Can take a picture if you'd like to see it for size and position.

I have the SW Motech Alu-rack on the pillion rails which gives a bit of extra space for luggage and you can mount their tank bag ring to it. Not the cheapest route potentially but pretty slick setup.

I haven't done this myself but throwing some options into the melting pot ;)
 
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So a few weeks ago we did the NC500. Absolutely amazing! 1700 miles in 9 days and we only encountered a couple of heavy showers/wet mornings so pretty good for Scotland as the weather can change rapidly.

I ended using a Givi 30lt roll bag which gave me plenty of extra room with the panniers and ended up taking more stuff than I needed to be fair. Didn't bother with a phone mount or nav in the end. I did get some new grips fitted though as one of mine had stopped working and was glad I had as I used them a bit with summer gloves even in June.

The bike was superb although definitely a bit out of its comfort zone in terms of range, wind, and weather protection when it did rain. But the others were on much bigger bikes and everyone said how well the Ducati did. I was getting a bit uncomfortable on the last day or so (kept the Racing seat on for the trip).

Day 3 on the Isle of Skye my Abs light came on and so for the rest of the trip I had no ABS or DTC.

Trip said I averaged 55mpg and we definitely did not hang around. Most I risked between fill-ups was around 125 miles as fuel stations are a bit hit and miss around the top of Scotland.







 
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Hi Jim,
Take a look in the Ride Reports section under Scotland Strada? and tell me if it was you we saw. I was mixed-up over the name of the potential Scottish 'Strada rider who introduced himself here, but whoever it was, it was good to see the bike being used for touring!
Nick
 
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Wow, that last shot! I love touring on my motard as the joy for me is the ride and having a smaller bike I can hustle on the back roads makes the trip fun. I hear the race seat is better than stock, I've definitely found myself getting a bit sore near the end of a trip on the stock seat. Given the seat comfort, range doesn't bother me much anyway as it's usually been an hour or two by the time I need gas and at that point I am ready for a stretch. Looks like a great trip!
 
I have the stock (comfort) seat and race seat, race seat is harder but it my general preferred seat (I have the foam removed where my sit bones (ichials) are. If I'm riding long, I go for the comfort seat with either sheep skin or AirHawk. Sporty riding, race seat...
 
ESheen said:
I have the SW Motech Alu-rack on the pillion rails which gives a bit of extra space for luggage and you can mount their tank bag ring to it. Not the cheapest route potentially but pretty slick setup.
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I like to tour on the Hyper when in the mountains as well, aside from Givi cases, Aluminum rack with Rotopax on it with a Speedpak, haven't really needed a tank bag with this and forget it's all back there...
 

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nickwst4 said:
Hi Jim,
Take a look in the Ride Reports section under Scotland Strada? and tell me if it was you we saw. I was mixed-up over the name of the potential Scottish 'Strada rider who introduced himself here, but whoever it was, it was good to see the bike being used for touring!
Nick
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Yes, that was me! Just replied to your thread.
 
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