Track Day

beef tits · Sep 19, 2015

I went up to IMI in Dacono, CO today. Had a lot of fun. It's a pretty small track but it seemed like a good starter. I was getting dusted by guys on Race prepped Ninja 250s and 150 Supermotos.

I managed to get the tires scrubbed allllmost all the way off but before I got to the edge I bent the piss out of my shift lever, scuffed the brake lever real good., scraped up the center stand, kick stand and both footpegs. You can't lean this thing over very far without scraping.

I'm sticking to my initial review of the bike. It isn't good at anything, but it's okay at a lot of things. If it excels in one area it's ripping through traffic/city riding.

Meh...

jdot1981 · Sep 20, 2015

Were you dragging a knee and a peg at the same time or what?

beef tits · Sep 20, 2015

Nah, I lack the pucks for that and I like my nice BMW City pants without holes in them.

So in other words, you don't have to get anywhere near "knee down" to scrape your bike on the ground. Or maybe I could have taken the turn just the same with my knee down. I hear it's just for show anyway, unless you are like racing moto GP.

BlueSwede · Sep 21, 2015

Is it a standard or low model? Also, what is your preload setting on the rear shock. If sag is properly set for the rider, I find it has a pretty good lean angle limit.

beef tits · Sep 21, 2015

I had no idea there were "low" models. How do you tell if you have one? The rear shock was cranked tight as it would go.

jdot1981 · Sep 21, 2015

Well- one point is that you can drag the foot peg on pretty much any bike without putting your knee down depending upon your body position.

Putt your knee down isn't just for show. I don't really get a knee down on the street but I adopt a similar body position for safety. A little shifting of weight (head/butt/body) reduces the amount you need to lean the bike over.

Anyways- I didn't realize tracks would let you on without all the gear.

gatdammit · Sep 21, 2015

1. Lot's of people racing with center stand on. I would chuck that first in track prep. Probably the side stand, too, if you have a buddy and a stand.

2. I've drug my knee on the street without scraping any parts. Thinking you might have the Low model.

I would say this bike is very good at many things. Not many bikes can transport all your track day gear to the track, then put up a fight on the track. Have you seen the promotional video with Hayden on a Motard SP? Yes, that's a more focused bike with better suspension but you can achieve that with the Strada, if desired.

beef tits · Sep 21, 2015

I'll measure my seat height later, as that seems to be the only reasonable way to tell.

I have a 32" inseam and am on the balls of my feet at intersections. I can flat foot one side with a slight lean. Pretty sure it's not the low model. Again, I was also avoiding "knee down" purposely, I don't have pucks. And yes, the track is a little "redneck"... they'll let you ride in jeans. $40 a day though.

So who's running a Strada with an SP suspension and wheels? It seems that changes the geometry pretty dramatically.

kobefans · Sep 21, 2015

beef **** said:
I'll measure my seat height later, as that seems to be the only reasonable way to tell.

I have a 32" inseam and am on the balls of my feet at intersections. I can flat foot one side with a slight lean. Pretty sure it's not the low model. Again, I was also avoiding "knee down" purposely, I don't have pucks. And yes, the track is a little "redneck"... they'll let you ride in jeans. $40 a day though.

So who's running a Strada with an SP suspension and wheels? It seems that changes the geometry pretty dramatically.

it you stick you leg out and hang-off the bike, you will have a less lean angle compare to not hanging out, it is not just for show,that way you wont scrap your pegs.... it's physics...And hang off with you leg out and scrap your slider is also very cool !

zippy49 · Sep 21, 2015

I've recently returned to a local kart track, where I used to race YSRs. Not only do they not require knee sliders (honestly, I've never heard of that as a requirement) but I was able to run the wifey's new 390 Duke with one mod...I took the mirrors off. I did wear full leathers, but they were my old baggy Z Custom street suit, two piece with soft pads and no slider velcro. It was a hot day; the vents were appreciated.

This track allows karts, supermotos, and cars for time attack and drift. I've run our '13 MX-5 there. Only one rule for the bikes, apparently...no fairings allowed! I've seen everything from pocket bikes to a 1290 Duke there. They even hosted an AMA pro Supermoto round earlier this year. If you buy a $99 annual membership, a full day is $30, and $15 on Mondays. Now that's cheap racing. But the Strada would be way out of its element on this very short and tight track, the little KTM is just perfect.

Here's a pic of the rear Rosso II after about ten laps...it's a 150, where most bikes with this size rim come with a 140. I did get the pegs down, but I don't think I'll ever erase that logo!

jdot1981 · Sep 21, 2015

beef **** said:
I'll measure my seat height later, as that seems to be the only reasonable way to tell.

I have a 32" inseam and am on the balls of my feet at intersections. I can flat foot one side with a slight lean. Pretty sure it's not the low model. Again, I was also avoiding "knee down" purposely, I don't have pucks. And yes, the track is a little "redneck"... they'll let you ride in jeans. $40 a day though.

So who's running a Strada with an SP suspension and wheels? It seems that changes the geometry pretty dramatically.

I think I've heard of others on this forum entering the VIN on Ducati's website. One recent poster remarked that he had the low one and didn't even realize it. Personally, I don't that just because you'd rug some parts you have the lower versus the normal one. Cheers to you for taking her to the track!

KMS Racing · Sep 21, 2015

What's left of my shifter and brake after a track day at Mosport!

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kuksul08 · Sep 21, 2015

If you lean off you dont have to lean the bike as much.

But yeah most of the track junkies get rear sets on this bike and put stiffer springs.

beef tits · Sep 21, 2015

There was a photographer at the track who got some shots. Not the best focus, but not bad for $7/ea.

ferdi · Sep 22, 2015

yes, the HS has definitly not as much ground clearance like the Triumph Daytonas of my sons or a Street Triple or even a new BMW R1200R of a friend, who can use the tire until the edge without scraping the footpegs or gear and brake levers.
on the HS, turning over until the edge, makes footpegs and levers look like on my photos. For me this is no real problem on traffic roads, but on track groundclearance is a little low. on track i have rear shock 10 clicks harder than at roaduse. Front is Andreani cartridges which i did not change for track because they are already a little too hard for roaduse and are perfect for me on track as they are on the softest positions, only rebound is 1 turn of five in.
To get quicker and to save your footrests and levers you have to hang off with bottom and body, no chance without that on tracks.
I am a normal roaddriver since 40 years, alone and with wife, and use my bikes only occasionally on tracks, but the driving style has to be different, there is no way for quick laptimes in touringstyle

.
Unfortunatly, now also my right Dainese touringboot is not waterresistant any more

.

PS: my HS is NO low model, its a normal 2013MY

gatdammit · Sep 22, 2015

Man, it is almost a crime Duc turned these 2 piece foot controls into a single piece.

BlueSwede · Sep 23, 2015

Ferdi, looking at your tires, I am impressed - you rode it hard... I agree the Hyperstrada doesn't have the ground clearance of a real supersport bike. Still, looks like you had a lot of fun with it at the track..

ferdi · Sep 23, 2015

BlueSwede said:
Ferdi, looking at your tires, I am impressed - you rode it hard... I agree the Hyperstrada doesn't have the ground clearance of a real supersport bike. Still, looks like you had a lot of fun with it at the track..

yes, we had a lot of fun.
i have been there with some friends and my younger son, who is no track specialist, but wants to become one, as his brother, who drives 20 seconds faster than i do

. for the youngster at the moment it is important to be faster than his father

.

for me the HS is the best bike i owned in the last 40 years. its like a leatherman.
its not perfect for anything but you can do everything with it.
even touring with wife is an option.

best moment of the day was when i came up with a Ducati 1198.
as i am not so famliar with trackdays, i did not want to overtake him on the brake. it was just a trackday, no race.
I looked driving 1 round behind him and noticed that i have no chance at accelerating and on the straight. so i passed him on the outside in a long and fast right. pure fun

but, the most important of a trackday is, that man and machine come home save without injuries

alfredr · Dec 18, 2015

ferdi said:
yes, the HS has definitly not as much ground clearance like the Triumph Daytonas of my sons or a Street Triple or even a new BMW R1200R of a friend, who can use the tire until the edge without scraping the footpegs or gear and brake levers.
on the HS, turning over until the edge, makes footpegs and levers look like on my photos. For me this is no real problem on traffic roads, but on track groundclearance is a little low. on track i have rear shock 10 clicks harder than at roaduse. Front is Andreani cartridges which i did not change for track because they are already a little too hard for roaduse and are perfect for me on track as they are on the softest positions, only rebound is 1 turn of five in.
To get quicker and to save your footrests and levers you have to hang off with bottom and body, no chance without that on tracks.
I am a normal roaddriver since 40 years, alone and with wife, and use my bikes only occasionally on tracks, but the driving style has to be different, there is no way for quick laptimes in touringstyle .
Unfortunatly, now also my right Dainese touringboot is not waterresistant any more .

PS: my HS is NO low model, its a normal 2013MY

Yeah, with the rear axle having a slider, there is no way I can get a rear stand for my HS2014 (unless, I'd be willing to take off the sliders every time. *LOL*) - so the center stand has to stay. The wife wants that kind of stability for bikes in the garage (the other is a 2005 999).

But even then with the center stand removed, you can't really drag without scraping parts? Up until suspension has been upgraded?

Me wonders what recommended rearsets are there for the Hyper...

alfredr · Dec 18, 2015

If you don't mind my asking, how much did the RaceTech fork upgrade set you back?

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