Andreani or Traxxion cartridge
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With Traxxion you would have to send in your forks.
What would you do about the rear shock?
From my perspective, anyone who wants to replace their suspension, regardless of vehicle, is best served by being able to articulate exactly the performance characteristics they are looking for. No suspension is well suited to every condition or riding experience. Each manufacturer designs to a set of characteristics, and price.
My desire was for a balanced front/rear suspension that was compliant on rough California mountain backroads. Not dirt trails and not race tracks, but real world crap road conditions. Potholes, frost heaves, dips and cattle guards, yet still keeping tire contact on the twisty sections.
Mupo did just that for me.
Hey, we have similar riding taste. So do you think it's a good idea to go with the single mupo for 70% of performance and a rear shock? and if let's say some time in the future I can always just get another mupo and install it in the second fork?
Do you know if the single mupo cartridge is the same as one of the 2 cartridges by mupo? Or does the single perform two functions?
Thank you
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The double cartridges separate the compression and rebound tasks, and are different than the single cartridge. So, you can't add one later.
My decision to spend some $2,600 on suspension was based on getting it done right, by someone who is an expert, while I was out getting a new knee.
The double cartridges were a decision to go ahead and spend double to make sure I wasn't disappointed on the rough backroads.
The rear shock decision was a no-brainer as it wasn't much more to get the top performing shock with high and low speed compression adjustment.
You may not have a suspension shop within driving distance, like I do. Or, you may trade bike often enough to not warrant this kind of expense.
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If one wanted to get the best bang for their Dollar, this is what I'd do:
Get the single Mupo fork cartridge.
Get the right spring for the rear shock, and maybe even get the shim stack redone to suit your riding. This always makes a difference in the dirt world.
Even taking the bike to a shop for all the work should have you out the door for less than $700. A good value.
What % of the full on Mupo performance will you get? Even if it is half, that is a big leap over OE for those who enjoy pushing on real world backroads. The kind of roads I find across the Western USA.
Get the single Mupo fork cartridge.
Get the right spring for the rear shock, and maybe even get the shim stack redone to suit your riding. This always makes a difference in the dirt world.
Even taking the bike to a shop for all the work should have you out the door for less than $700. A good value.
What % of the full on Mupo performance will you get? Even if it is half, that is a big leap over OE for those who enjoy pushing on real world backroads. The kind of roads I find across the Western USA.
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Keep the rear shock and select the spring, oil and shim stack that suits your weight and needs.
The left fork is fine, lots of bikes have only one cartridge.
BUT, this is the value priced approach. Blue Light Special.
I am sorry but I do not follow. If I get the single mupo that means I don't have to do anything to the right fork , it's a simple insert.
Are you referring to the left fork to "select the spring, oil and shim stack that suits your weight and needs."
And not even mess with the rear suspension?
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No, drop in the Mupo right fork cartridge, and rebuild the Sachs shock absorber. It has a reservoir and can be made better. The spring will make a big difference. (Although there are opposing theories about spring weight and dampening.)
Here is the start of the pages where I discuss the Mupo: http://hyperstrada.com/mechanical-technical/1056-suspension-thread-booing-17.html
Ignore the left fork.
The key here is to find a competent local shop to rebuild the shock.
you convinced me, I went with the 2 cartridges and the rear shock all for $1600 from italy with shipping. I attached a screen shot of the parts and price. They had a 20% sale going on. Please let me know if everything looks accordingly.
Thanks man.
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Hey so I ordered the parts already but then I got a call from a sales rep here in Los Angeles and he emailed me this. I didnt order through him i went through a site in italy, so i am not sure if he is trying to convince me to cancel the order and place it with him. Any thoughts? His email is below.
"Hi Toufic,
I dont know. For one it usually takes Mupo about 2-3 weeks to build the suspension for me custom to order. Then I pay extra to have my parts shipped Via Fedex 3 day and that costs around $200 for shipping alone. which also helps expedite the package through customs and I pay any fees taxes etc.. I cant believe they are only charging $35.00 to ship a shock and cartridges makes me wonder how long it will take for you to get the parts. Not only the shipping but also getting through customs.
If you were to place that order through me it would be $1860.00 total shipped
Keep in mind that does not include Hydraulic preload same as what you ordered through them.
Also I have my suspension kits custom built to the riders specs including weight, tires, riding ability and custom preferences. I have no idea what spring rates or valving you will get with that order. I also dont know if Mupo ever specified which forks you have so that you could have ordered the correct cartridges.
Any setup or warranty issues you have with the suspension would have to be sorted through the dealer that sold the suspension kit to you in which case that is back in Italy.
Finally if in fact you need the LCRR cartridges then I would have advised you to go with the Race kit which would have included a AB1 EVO Rear shock (much Lighter version) and it would have included the Hydraulic preload, oil and case (safer shipping). That kit would have cost you $1970.00 Total shipped.
I think you might have jumped the gun on this one and although it seems like a good deal in the short term you may end up paying for it in the long run.
Anyway I guess well just have to see what you get when it arrives and go from there.
Cheers,
Lee"
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Well, my decision was to support my local suspension guy, despite the added cost. A cost that pays for his time, expertise and installation effort.
On my 2013 Strada there were three different versions of the forks, and the installer had to take them apart and send photos to Mupo to get the correct cartridges.
As of the AB1 Evo, we decided that it wasn't worth the added expense. The AB1 has all the same features. The Evo may be more important to those who focus on track time.
All my reasoning was explained in the suspension thread.
On my 2013 Strada there were three different versions of the forks, and the installer had to take them apart and send photos to Mupo to get the correct cartridges.
As of the AB1 Evo, we decided that it wasn't worth the added expense. The AB1 has all the same features. The Evo may be more important to those who focus on track time.
All my reasoning was explained in the suspension thread.
Hey so after talking with Lee, ive decided to cancel my order with Italy and pay the extra $300 and go with a local shop. He charged me for the race kit that will include the Oil, Case, AB1 EVO Shock with hydraulic preload all for $1960.
I will keep you guys updated once i get them and have them installed. If you guys have any picture requests please let me know.
I will keep you guys updated once i get them and have them installed. If you guys have any picture requests please let me know.
