Any feedback on this fuel fix gizmo ?

I hate dealing with Shift Tech. I've spent a ton of money with him since he had parts early last year, but his service and variable pricing is far below expectation.

The gizmo was probably my last purchase. I figured for $90 WTF.

Can't say I'm disappointed since I didn't expect much from him at this point.

It's still 90 bucks for a lie though, it is one thing to be unhappy with something and another thing totally that it 100% is a lie and doesn't do what you paid for in any way and never could.

No doubt.

Just got mine in the mail. Little disappointed after reading some of the relies here tbh but suppose that's my fault. Just to clarify, no check engine light if I were to install? I'm fairly certain I'll get the full termi system once I get my first service done so debating even installing at this point.

No check engine light. I still haven't ridden mine since the install. Probably remove it since I have a couple recalls to go in for.

Booster plug guy's email says there is probably fail safe checks in the ECU to compare IAT and the Ambient Temp and flag if there is a significant difference. One way to get around it would be to replace both thermistors / temp sensors to the same value.

Hypermono said:

Booster plug guy's email says there is probably fail safe checks in the ECU to compare IAT and the Ambient Temp and flag if there is a significant difference. One way to get around it would be to replace both thermistors / temp sensors to the same value.

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Can probably rule such a fail-safe out for the moment.

• There's a bunch of bikes out there running with this thing, a dash with a negative temp reading and the ECU 20+ above what the dash says; and looks like no errors.
• Can run the bike with the front unplugged. I don't think I've run more than an hour that way, but unlikely that it's a time thing.

But agreed, would be very simple to bypass if there was such a thing.

What evidence do you have that it does not work?

Have all of you tried it?

I ordered one and look forward to giving it a try.

I’ll report back my findings/actual experience in the coming weeks.

I have copied it and run with it. I didn't notice any difference (apart from a number on the dash), both in closed loop and open loop. I live in a warm country so it isn't some seasonal issue. This includes ride feel closed loop and open loop, temperature measurements of the headers, and the data being reported over OBD-II.

However, I'm very much not interested in that kind of evidence, it's too easy to counter with 'that's just your experience' or 'your opinion'. I'm only interested in hard evidence.

At the moment the choice is between

• The front sensor isn't part of the emissions control system (which is both inputs and outputs) as defined in the Euro 5 standard.
  • The bike is compliant with Euro 5
  • The device is a scam
• The front sensor is part of the emissions control system
  • Ducati are not reporting this sensor as mandated over OBD-II
  • Ducati are not logging an error as mandated when this sensor is disconnected
  • The bike is not Euro 5 compliant
  • The device does something (albeit immeasurable) and Ducati have a problem

That question was pushed to Ducati Italy and I'm still waiting for an answer.

I've got Ducati service techs telling me that the front sensor isn't part of the emissions system. We've got the owner of booster plugs agreeing that the testing performed confirms that the front connector is not part of the emissions system.

To be honest though, it's super easy to prove this yourself. Open up the cowl and unplug the temperature sensor and replace the cowl. You won't get an engine check light (yellow).

Go ride the bike. Was there a difference, worse, better? And the answer to that will be no. If the bike doesn't run any different in a 'failed' state, then why does this device magically work?

Even easier, just ask your local Ducati service tech what the front connector of your bike actually does.

The bike needs an ECU flash, and for that it needs time and effort for a company to dedicate to cracking the new ECU, and for that to happen there needs to be the pressure of enough people wanting to buy an ECU flash.

If a company is making some product as a quick fix, then that pressure is radically reduced. i.e. why buy a $xxx ECU flash when a $xx product get's you 75% of the way there. But that's a compromise that's always existed (PowerCommander vs ECU etc etc).

A scam product gets you 0% of the way there but still reduces the pressure to crack the ECU. The scam product doesn't just affect the purchaser, but everyone that is interested in improving the bike.