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Any suggestions on improving the low-beam headlight on HS

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Iowa
I was wondering if anyone has ideas on how to improve the low beam headlight on the HS. I don't feel confident on the freeway at night with the low beam light output. High beam is better but don't want to blind oncoming traffic. Thanks for your suggestions.
 
My thoughts on this are that 2 auxiliary lights are better than a super bright led replacement.

Having a triangle of lights adds to your visibility, day or night, and gives drivers a sense of depth perception so they can better gauge your distance.

The aux lights can be aimed, and because they're lower, the light won't bounce back to you in fog and rain. Some people put a wide angle on the right and a spot on the left. This helps downroad illumination, and the wide angle gives you a better view to the road side for deer etc.

ADV Monster, and cyclops make reasonably priced kits, and if you join advrider you can get a 10% discount. Kuksul08 - an inmate here, also makes a beautifully integrated aux light set.
 
I replaced the OEM bulb with LED. Much better but still nowhere near my other bikes I have owned
 
I've just fitted one of these. £30 on eBay. You can fit the whole thing inside the light unit and get the cover closed but remember to spread the cooling tapes as best you can. The light output is huge in comparison and it's lower power so no fuse chances. 40W 6000LM H4 HB2 9003 CREE LED.

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This is what I have. A little improvement from the OEM. It is just the design of the Hypermotard Light itself.
 
Still in the package...got other projects going right now, and I rarely ride at night. Delivery was quick, though!

I'll get it done when I get my new LED turn signals.
 
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Here's a new model from cyclops - it has both a cut off shield for low beams, and the ability to project at 4000k. I think I'll give it a try.

3800 Lumen Convertable H4 bulb with 4000 and 6000K

The simple fact that they're claiming 3800 lumens from an emitter that at most can make 1000-1100 each (2000-2200 total) is questionable. Unless they're overdriving them, in which case they'd have to be overdriven a LOT (as brightness is not linear with respect to current) and the cooling of their design is already questionable.

I'm sure it's brighter than the stock bulb, but their claims don't really hold up unless I'm missing something.
 
The simple fact that they're claiming 3800 lumens from an emitter that at most can make 1000-1100 each (2000-2200 total) is questionable. Unless they're overdriving them, in which case they'd have to be overdriven a LOT (as brightness is not linear with respect to current) and the cooling of their design is already questionable.

I'm sure it's brighter than the stock bulb, but their claims don't really hold up unless I'm missing something.


There are 4 emitters for a total of 4200 - 4400 lumens. I don't think he's driving them to max.

The cooling is via a fan - I get your point there if you're referring to potential failure as opposed to actual cooling, however, there is a 1 year warranty. But with a cutoff shield and lower K of the light I find it compelling. Can't stand 6000k lights, and I don't want to blind oncoming drivers.

You can talk to the guy directly via the advrider forum in the vendor section.
 
There are 4 emitters for a total of 4200 - 4400 lumens. I don't think he's driving them to max.

The cooling is via a fan - I get your point there if you're referring to potential failure as opposed to actual cooling, however, there is a 1 year warranty. But with a cutoff shield and lower K of the light I find it compelling. Can't stand 6000k lights, and I don't want to blind oncoming drivers.

You can talk to the guy directly via the advrider forum in the vendor section.

Actually, what they are claiming might be only thru if they are driving 4x LEDs at the same time. However you low beam is ~2000lm. The CREE chip is 1050lm, Only 2x LEDs are used for low beam, so you are getting 2100lm best case. I thought anyone would drive the LEDs to their max. Looking at the size, I doubt those will fit in 821 Hypermotard.
 
There are 4 emitters for a total of 4200 - 4400 lumens. I don't think he's driving them to max.

The cooling is via a fan - I get your point there if you're referring to potential failure as opposed to actual cooling, however, there is a 1 year warranty. But with a cutoff shield and lower K of the light I find it compelling. Can't stand 6000k lights, and I don't want to blind oncoming drivers.

You can talk to the guy directly via the advrider forum in the vendor section.

I didn't see the 2nd emitter, it looked like the bulge was the cutoff. Just looked them up on ADV and you're right, so I stand corrected. It looks like they put a shield to cover half the emitter and that's the low beam. High beam is the outer ones on (or maybe all 4). It's very plausible he can achieve 3800 lumens at the emitter. Looks like a good improvement over the first versions we saw.

He does mention they are DOT certified. I'm curious about the extent of this, if they are actually certified. The DOT allows people to say they are, without any verification (like helmets). I'd like to see one in person and test it out. However, I'm wondering how it would work on the hyper since the back of the bulb is in a sealed housing with a hard cover.

Not trying to cut down the product at all, I'm just very skeptical initially. There are so many lights out there that make false claims and suck. It would be really nice to finally be able to swap out the horrid halogen bulb.
 
Actually, what they are claiming might be only thru if they are driving 4x LEDs at the same time. However you low beam is ~2000lm. The CREE chip is 1050lm, Only 2x LEDs are used for low beam, so you are getting 2100lm best case. I thought anyone would drive the LEDs to their max. Looking at the size, I doubt those will fit in 821 Hypermotard.

Looking at the design, they are blocking half of the low beam although it might be somewhat reflective. Since the LEDs have a 170 degree angle you might only see 50-60% of that amount on low beam, or around 1050-1200lm. The high beams then add 2100 more , which gets closer to the claimed 3800 on high.

I'd say that relative to the stock bulb, this low beam will be similar brightness but a smoother light distribution, and high beam will appear about twice as bright, also with a smoother light distribution.
 
Actually, what they are claiming might be only thru if they are driving 4x LEDs at the same time. However you low beam is ~2000lm. The CREE chip is 1050lm, Only 2x LEDs are used for low beam, so you are getting 2100lm best case. I thought anyone would drive the LEDs to their max. Looking at the size, I doubt those will fit in 821 Hypermotard.

Well it has a low beam AND a high beam.

Driving anything to the max is not a great idea.

If it doesn't fit I'll send it back.

Geez
 
Well it has a low beam AND a high beam.

Driving anything to the max is not a great idea.

If it doesn't fit I'll send it back.

Geez

Keep us updated. I ordered another set, that based on the dimensions seems will fit. I will try it next weekend when I get back from my trip

Link to the same product on eBay

The low beam uses CREE XHP50 which is rated for 2500lm each and Philips MZ for the high beam.
 
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Recommend Clearwater lights

I highly recommend paying the $$$ to install clearwater Darlas. They fit right on the fender.

Check out this short youtube I did with my go pro on my strada to show how bright they are.

watch it for the whole minute as I flick them on and off pulling into my driveway

https://youtu.be/PMBX7JAxkdw

good luck
 
Lol I like how you're riding on the shoulder flashing people. They're probably thinking... what the hell is that