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HS owners with Andreanis... please chime in here

Joined May 2014
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Long Island
Ok, so I've been thinking of giving up on my bike and trading it, but before I do, I wanted to see if I can assemble all this forum's owners of Andreani-equipped Hyperstradas. Not sure how many of us there are, but I want to get some info and support because I've had it. OK, I know what follows is very long to read. But please help if you've got some Andreani insight with a set installed on your bike.


Rider weight geared up and ready to go:
What spring gauge did you get, if you know since it's printed on the spring:
What kind of riding did you tell them you do when you ordered:
Where'd you get them:
Did you install them yourself:
What is your combination of spacers like, the ones that go between the gold preload shaft and the top of the spring:
Did you have to compress the spring to put the assembly together:
Is the assembly under any pressure as you screw the top cap down into the fork:
How many turns out on rebound:
How many turns out on compression:
How many rings showing on preload:
How much sag on the front and on the rear:
Does it absorb bigger bumps and ruts well:
Does it absorb smaller cracks, hard edged bumps well:
Do you feel the forks are supple enough to give a smooth ride on roads that are smooth:

That last one is why I'm frustrated. I've been back and forth with David at fastbike and regardless of what I do, the forks are not able to give a smooth ride on a smooth road. They do fine damping bumps, ruts, potholes, and anything else you wouldn't want unsettling the bike. Really good at that, in fact. Where it's become maddening is that on a smooth freshly repaved road, the whole nose of the bike is juddering up and down with every ripple in the pavement, as though the first few inches of suspension travel are locked up and not able to give way unless the bump is something significant. Know what I'm saying? Mind you the ride is much better than stock, but it's annoying the crap out of me to have my whole body shaking, the bars shaking, and if I look at the nose of the bike, that's shaking too. All because the forks wont give way to smaller road imperfections. A buddy rode along side me on the same road and said he couldn't believe what he was seeing. The forks weren't compressing, the whole front of the bike was bobbing. His 2012 Moto Guzzi V7 Racer was doing nothing of the sort. Smooth as silk.

I have tried everything David has said. I've tried different springs he sent. I've taken out spacers. I've double and triple checked that the fork legs are not binding. I've taken it all apart and reinstalled it all. I couldn't get sag within spec, it was too high with no preload added. So I took spacers out.
 
When I first put it together, I could barely get any more than 20mm sag with me on it, 15 without me on it.

That is too little sag for the street. Have you considered taking your bike to a suspension person and seeing what they can do? Certainly, I think a big part of your problem is either the spring rate, or your preload.

It is also possible that the Andreanis cartridges has poor low speed compression. What weight oil are you using?
 
That is too little sag for the street. Have you considered taking your bike to a suspension person and seeing what they can do? Certainly, I think a big part of your problem is either the spring rate, or your preload.

It is also possible that the Andreanis cartridges has poor low speed compression. What weight oil are you using?

I don't know a suspension person. I've got tech know-how, and know a few other technically savvy rider friends. We're perplexed. I'm waiting to hear back from David at FastBike to see what he heard back from Andreani.
 
I'm 235lbs, have 105kg springs, running 5wt oil. i've tried every combination of compression and rebound, and my bike feels the same as you describe. my sag is just about 45mm so i think the spring rate is correct. it seems like the fork is hydraulicly locked.

mark
 
I'm 235lbs, have 105kg springs, running 5wt oil. i've tried every combination of compression and rebound, and my bike feels the same as you describe. my sag is just about 45mm so i think the spring rate is correct. it seems like the fork is hydraulicly locked.

mark

Mark,
Thanks for chiming in. At least I know I'm not the only one. I hope others who have the Andreani forks will chime in too.

I think there is something wrong with the hydraulic valving that makes it unable to be supple over small things but handle big things. I hit a hole so deep this morning that the fork bottomed, hard. Thought for sure I'd bent the rim or blown the seal. So far no evidence of that.
 
Did you tried to contact Andreani?
I've been in contact with their USA rep. Waiting to hear back. He thinks there's something wrong with the way I installed them. Uh, NO. There's not. :mad:

Sure the instructions included in the set were horrible and not specific to this bike, but I think given that I did the install, and others have read my write-up on the install, and done it themselves (Like Mark, who works as a technician in another field), if I did something wrong so did he.
 
I agree this is a too easy argument. Maybe should you try to ask them directly if you think their USA rep isn't doing it well.
 
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It sounds bad but I have to say I don't have these problems with stock set up. This Isn't a characteristic of the bike. Did this surface after putting the custom kit in - or was it the same before?
 
It sounds bad but I have to say I don't have these problems with stock set up. This Isn't a characteristic of the bike. Did this surface after putting the custom kit in - or was it the same before?

The stock suspension, to me, felt like it had no front suspension, i'm a big guy, 235lb with no gear, that being said, the new suspension is better in some respects, but it's far from being what it should be for $900.
mark
 
The stock suspension, to me, felt like it had no front suspension, i'm a big guy, 235lb with no gear, that being said, the new suspension is better in some respects, but it's far from being what it should be for $900.
mark

Agreed. The stock suspension showed me how bad it was - for me - within the first few hundred miles. I'm 6' and 210 with no gear. Also agreed that for this kind of money, the forks should be like butter if I want them to be.

They're better over bad bumps than stock. They are better over bumps while leaned over in a turn. No deviation from the chosen line through a corner. But damn if it doesn't drive me nuts on with the judder on roads where you can't even see the ripples.
 
Seems like working with a suspension person would be cheaper than losing money on trading to a multistrada. Perhaps even sending the forks down to David (he's in NC, right?) to trouble shoot. Either way, I hope you get it sorted.
 
I know. It's an overblown and extreme reaction to trade up. I was thinking about it on my ride home today. A total front and rear Ohlins setup would cost less than what I'd lose with the trade, if I could find forks that'll work. The forks that come on the hypermotard SP are only sorta ok, from what I hear.

These Andreanis should work well but don't. And I'm not ready to lay up the bike without the legs just yet. Tempted to take a weekend to myself and ride down there and get the problem solved. It's getting chilly.
 
have you checked your wheel balance and tires for uneven wear?

I'm around 200-210 and the main issues I have are at slow speed over broken roads - at speed it's not an issue. It's only my 3rd bike so I don't have much to compare it to.
 
have you checked your wheel balance and tires for uneven wear?

I'm around 200-210 and the main issues I have are at slow speed over broken roads - at speed it's not an issue. It's only my 3rd bike so I don't have much to compare it to.

I've had bikes with wheel balance and tire issues, and this isn't what I'm feeling. After 200 miles yesterday and some tweaks, I found that the bike rode better, as long as I was going over 45 on a smooth road.

I downloaded the service manual at a site mentioned on these boards, and set out to undo the pinch bolts and make sure they were all torqued correctly. I also noticed that one leg was a teeny tiny bit higher in the triple clamps than the other. A minute amount but I put it as close to perfect just in case. I may undo it all again and try some alignment techniques I read about online. Just in case it's a stiction issue.

I really wish all those with Andreani forks would chime in and answer the questions in my original post, not that I don't appreciate the suggestions from the rest of you helpful folks. I do. Thanks.
 
Mine are set to 1.25 turns out on compression and slightly less than 1.75 out on rebound.

4 bands of preload showing up front.
 
Mine are set to 1.25 turns out on compression and slightly less than 1.75 out on rebound.

4 bands of preload showing up front.

Thanks for adding your info. What do you weigh? How's the ride, in your opinion? Did you install them yourself?