Yeah from what I heard the 939 isn't as jerky or doesn't surge as bad or at all as the 821.
Keep posted man on your upgrades.
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Ohlins TTX36 Suspension Upgrade for Ducati Hyperstrada
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Yeah from what I heard the 939 isn't as jerky or doesn't surge as bad or at all as the 821.
Keep posted man on your upgrades.
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I should add that this solution is not coming cheap. Dave gave me a break on the custom TTX at $1500 but the Mupo custom K911's are a whopping $1750. I got the bike at an end of year sale for $11k so with the suspension I'll have close to $15k into it. I look at it as though I've just built a higher end SP Strada I guess.
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For what I'll have in farkles and suspension, it will be an HyperStrada SP+ but I promised the old **** I'd leave the engine alone on this one, so it won't be an SP-RR, which is a bummer since I think I can get a 1200 engine in this...
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I've always preferred suspension modifications over anything engine relates because it offers the best performance boost on mountain backroads.
I guess if your goal is stop light to stoplight racing, engine and exhaust mods might be more important. But then, your money might be better spent getting a KTM Super Duke R if quick speed is what motivates you.
Suspension modifications also greatly increase safety as the better the tires remain connected to the road surface the better your ability to turn and brake will be. Both are critical when the poo is hitting the paddles.
I guess if your goal is stop light to stoplight racing, engine and exhaust mods might be more important. But then, your money might be better spent getting a KTM Super Duke R if quick speed is what motivates you.
Suspension modifications also greatly increase safety as the better the tires remain connected to the road surface the better your ability to turn and brake will be. Both are critical when the poo is hitting the paddles.
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For any of you that replaced the fronts, did it settle the high speed instability in the front end? At 85+ mph, my bars are very light and hitting anything that upsets the front end causes a slight ripple through the front end to the bars. Makes me really not riding above this speed for long distances.
I'm gonna do suspension upgrades once I get the opportunity but trying to determine if this is more a steering damper issue. Granted, I can tell this bike isn't designed to haul that much ***, especially with the bags on, as I normally ride.
I'm gonna do suspension upgrades once I get the opportunity but trying to determine if this is more a steering damper issue. Granted, I can tell this bike isn't designed to haul that much ***, especially with the bags on, as I normally ride.
I've not noticed anything like that (2015 'tard with stock suspension). I did have the suspension set up not too long after I got it.
That involved adding some sag to the rear end as well as setting the rebound damping along letting the fork legs slide up maybe 1/4 of an inch in the triple. Bike feels pretty well planted even when I'm pushing 100 on the highway and we don't exactly have smooth tarmac here in northern California.
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That involved adding some sag to the rear end as well as setting the rebound damping along letting the fork legs slide up maybe 1/4 of an inch in the triple. Bike feels pretty well planted even when I'm pushing 100 on the highway and we don't exactly have smooth tarmac here in northern California.
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Just rode my 939 HS through a bad storm (140km/h/90MPH headwinds) fully loaded with bags and top box. The bars wiggled sometimes due to oncoming semi-trailer turbulence, but soon settled down. Without the truck turbulence the bike would run waggle-free to 200kmh (120MPH) no problemo. I reckon the lower front end of the strada, with the puny 130mm of wheel travel, makes it more stable than a motard.
I felt that with the touring windscreen. Maybe because it was causing me to sit back, or was unloading the front. I took it off, and it was way better.
But I still find this bike brutal on the highway, just being out exposed to the full brunt of the wind. Anything over 80 is a workout.
But I still find this bike brutal on the highway, just being out exposed to the full brunt of the wind. Anything over 80 is a workout.
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Lowering your triples might actually cause the opposite affect. Be careful. Sounds counter-intuitive, but it's going to change the steering rake angle to be closer to 0° and make it wobble more.
I've ridden my hyper a few times without the windscreen. Seriously anything 80+ is almost scary. The amount of wind on an upright body is insane. On the other hand, with my aftermarket windscreen, I've pulled the bike up to 120 and it's still easy enough to control. I don't know how SP riders do it!
I suppose I should try a windscreen, strong headwinds and 80 + do get interesting, but I've never ridden a bike with a proper windscreen so I guess I don't know what I'm missing.
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Still rockin' PR3's. They are the best rubber I've had on her for overall handling.
I'm remembering way back to when I dropped the tree on my R6. I'm recalling that reducing the rake gave better low speed response and sacrificed high end stability. Won't do that then.
I have no delusions that this bike is a grand tourer. Just wondering if adding some better bits up front quieted the scariness at speed. It certainly needs suspension work, regardless. I don't want to slap a steering damper on if it won't solve the one issue I bought it for. If I remember right, those don't do **** for point and shoot driving.
I'm remembering way back to when I dropped the tree on my R6. I'm recalling that reducing the rake gave better low speed response and sacrificed high end stability. Won't do that then.
I have no delusions that this bike is a grand tourer. Just wondering if adding some better bits up front quieted the scariness at speed. It certainly needs suspension work, regardless. I don't want to slap a steering damper on if it won't solve the one issue I bought it for. If I remember right, those don't do **** for point and shoot driving.
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No, the front PR3 wobble badly in many circumstances. So bad that I used a PR4 for the front.
The Pirelli Rosso 3 is so superior to the PR3 that they are in different universes.
If you are looking for a high mileage sport touring tire look at the new Metzler Roadtec 01.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzcgeHLZMvw&feature=youtu.be
The Pirelli Rosso 3 is so superior to the PR3 that they are in different universes.
If you are looking for a high mileage sport touring tire look at the new Metzler Roadtec 01.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzcgeHLZMvw&feature=youtu.be
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The Ohlins TTX36 and the Mupo K911's have arrived. I ordered a set of Rosso III's as well. Rented a Triumph Street Triple in Vegas last week which had the Rosso's on it. They were so good I had to put some on the 939!
I'll post some pics when the installation is complete.
I'll post some pics when the installation is complete.
Metzeler Roadtec 01 get rave reviews with a combo of wet handling, quick warm up and agility. Might try them after my scorpion trail 2s take a dirt nap.
The trail2s seem OK,never let me down in the wet, or on frost heave roads etc - but they've cupped and flattened pretty fast, even though I've used them as they're described. Not sure how much actual off road grip they have, though I've ridden some tough roads, so maybe a street tire is worth trying.
As far as touring on the strada - keep the grip twisted and you keep going. Always happy in the morning to see it waiting. The hand guards and windscreen do a reasonable job - otherwise I dress for the occasion and all is good.
Ponder the inmate doing 120mph with full bags. Not me, not ever.
The trail2s seem OK,never let me down in the wet, or on frost heave roads etc - but they've cupped and flattened pretty fast, even though I've used them as they're described. Not sure how much actual off road grip they have, though I've ridden some tough roads, so maybe a street tire is worth trying.
As far as touring on the strada - keep the grip twisted and you keep going. Always happy in the morning to see it waiting. The hand guards and windscreen do a reasonable job - otherwise I dress for the occasion and all is good.
Ponder the inmate doing 120mph with full bags. Not me, not ever.
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Ohlins TTX36, Mupo K911's carts and Diablo Rosa III's installed today. Rode 50 miles and the bike is so much smoother, especially the forks. No longer do rough DC roads shake my teeth out and jerk the bike off line. Didn't lean it over much as the tires felt a little squirmy at first. I did however go from flat footing to tip toes on the bike.
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