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RSL

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I'm really interested to try the new Angel GT design. I've had good luck with the tires but my tendency towards long trips and my liberal use of the throttle still means I eat up the rear in about 5 - 8k depending on conditions (who knew that 90+ F temps and 85-95mph cruising speeds would wear a tire?)

Right now I have an angel on the back with 5k on it and a Rosso III on the front at the angel up there finally was done with almost 9k.
 
Same affliction. I don't really have speed limits where I live. I average near triple digits if traffic permits. I've never gotten more than 4K out of a rear, even with dual-compound. I'm hoping my new PR5's can brake that mold. The uneven wear of front vs. rear pisses me off more than the mileage.
 
I'm more bothered by wearing down the center before I've hit the wear bars on the edges with the rear. I already bias my road trips towards winding back roads but I like going places and invariably end up slabbing or riding otherwise straight-ish roads (which is when the high speed cruising comes into play). I actually did the opposite on the front, I was well past the wear bars on the sides with a decent amount of life left in the center. Thinking at least in the front the Rosso III will wear more evenly.
 
Im on my 3rd or 4th set of Angel GTs. I tend to only weekend in the twistys and the occasional trip to work. On the last 2 sets I have been wearing the sides up way before the middle. It took me awhile to notice these things never get any heat in them unless its a really hot day. And there is no feedback from them, they always seem to grip fine in the corners but I never get any feedback to reassure me. I love the life I get out of them but I will be going back to a more sports type on my next set looking for that stickiness in the corners.
 
Im considering the Angel GT's, and now also the GT II's. Old Shinko 705's are awful. I want very fun and very well handling. Tire life is less important. Of course touring as well. Will I be fulfilled with the GT's or do I need sportbike tires?
 
Scorpion Trail II's, Angel GT II's, or Diablo Rosso III?
 
kuksul08 said:
I've heard really great things about the Road 5.

I tried the Angel GT's and really didn't like them at all. I wonder how the version 2 will be.
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They're good. Hard to say how good because my local roads are so scary I don't get to hoon it like I used to in the states. I'll say with DTC off, it will come out of a slip and launch the front on some roads that used to just spin away on my PR3's. As far as wet traction, I always had great confidence in the rain on all my tires, which I mostly attribute to overall bike stability.

Real test of PR5's will be wear. This is what I hope to gain the most.
 
I had such a good experience with the Metzeler Raodtec 01s in wet, dry and horrible potholed backroad, that it still makes sense as a replacement tire.

The new sipe design with the Road 5 makes me think the hourglass design will pack with sand. My experience with the PR2, 3 and 4 was poor. Wobbles after wear and poor rear tire traction with full power application leaned over. But then, I have never had a good experience with any Michelin tire on any vehicle, car, motorcycle or 4X4.

So many rave about the Angel GT that there must be something to this tire.
Link: Pirelli Angel GT Sport Touring Mileage Tire Review

The practical side of me considers sipes to be critical to wet traction, especially on painted surfaces or wet steel, like manhole covers. Roadtec 01 wins here.
 
I had the stock Scropion Trails on my bike. They lasted 3,600 miles, and were decent, but I didn't have complete confidence. Tried the Angel GT's (not II), and once they wore down to about 70% the front got loose a couple of times. They lasted about 3500 miles, and seemed to have worn unevenly, but that may not necessarily point to a tire issue, but I did not like them in all honesty. I currently run the Dunlop Q3+ and on dry pavement, even bumpy, they are simply amazing. I'm not sure how many miles I'll get out of them, but they look good so far with around 2500. By the end of summer I'll be installing the Roadtec's for winter as I wouldn't feel confident in the wet with the Q3+.
 
In the late 90's, early 2000's, Metzler sportbike tires were garbage. Specifically the Battle Axe line. I'm sure that's not the case anymore but, it just developed that Pavlovian response to ignore Metzler products. To solidify my silly prejudice, I hate Michelin tires on my cars but prefer them on my bikes...
 
I am a huge fan of the metzler m7rr. I was on the fence between the m7rr and Road5. I had a little extra cash and splurged for the Road5. They will be there Tuesday.
 
N4teTheGreat said:
I believe Pirelli owns Metzler these days anyway, maybe that's helping to align the quality between the two?
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thats right, Diabalo Rosso III and M7RR come from the same factory in Germany, so do the Metzeler Next and Pirelli Scorpion2. I do not know if this is also so for Roadtec and Angel GT2, but probably yes.
I cannot imagine that they build the tires for specific segments different, except the profile. But, I do not know.
 
I opted for Rosso III's instead of Angels because I want more pure street performance. Dry pavement performance. I realized that was the purpose of my next chapter of tire, not long distance or touring or rain.
 
I've changed from the Angel gt's to the Road 5's. With the GT's it was the most i have had out of a rear tyre at around 6-7k but did notice that it took a while to warm up from cold and would spin up. The 5's are grippy basically from the off. Done a few track days on them and around 3.5K on them at the moment, sides are more worn than the center, amazing tyres. Just fitted them to my Triumph Thruxton R. I'll report on here what the final mileage and wear was like on the 5's
 
+1 on PR5's. I don't slip and slide as much as I did on the PR3's. I actually have to work to slip the rear on some of my polished glass roads. As good as advertised in the wet. I've been setting out it 30-40 F mornings and I don't get too concerned with warm up as they've never scared me in my old problem areas before entering autostrade.

Now, I'll admit I've kind always had a thing for the look of meaty sport bike tires hanging open off a swingarm. Seriously, the new tread design on these just looks tits. Something really good will have to come along to change me from the PR line.
 
I recently put Road 5 tires on and so far I have no complaints. On wet roads they've got plenty of grip with minimal TC activity. They track perfectly straight over metal grate bridges too which is nice as I have many of those in my area. Cornering feels controlled and confident. Curious to see how they'll wear over time.
 

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