Any feedback on this fuel fix gizmo ?

MrBoom · Feb 7, 2025

Who's the accomplice and to what?

If it were a verified product with actual AFR and Dyno data, then...... We would not be having these posts.

The initial claims of performance were removed from the website. So ..... Again.

The lesson is to not make claims that cannot be verified.

hypermotardking · Feb 8, 2025

MrBoom said:
Who's the accomplice and to what?

If it were a verified product with actual AFR and Dyno data, then...... We would not be having these posts.

The initial claims of performance were removed from the website. So ..... Again.

The lesson is to not make claims that cannot be verified.

Ask Mude - he made the statement.

I think you guys need to move on.. you win some you lose some.. no point banging on and on - life’s too short and there’s other more important stuff to put your energy into..

MrBoom · Feb 8, 2025

Dude. This is a motorcycle cycle forum. Not a healthy living forum.

Please don't turn this into a self help / self love thread.

We've got better things to do. Ride bikes and complain when vendors put out shoddy kit.

Shiiiit. Didn't you start a YouTube account doing something like that? Some of those videos are helpful.

hypermotardking · Feb 8, 2025

MrBoom said:
Dude. This is a motorcycle cycle forum. Not a healthy living forum.

Please don't turn this into a self help / self love thread.

We've got better things to do. Ride bikes and complain when vendors put out shoddy kit.

Shiiiit. Didn't you start a YouTube account doing something like that? Some of those videos are helpful.

Self love/Self help.. What you on about..?

Forums are great place for information sharing.. but just as their good for that they are also the problem for only airing one side of the story.

Mude · Feb 8, 2025

And you are here to present the other side of the story as a representative of Shift-Tech?

Rmv · Feb 8, 2025

Has anyone tried using a bag of dry ice on top of AirBox sensor?

hypermotardking · Feb 8, 2025

Mude said:
And you are here to present the other side of the story as a representative of Shift-Tech?

I think shiftech can do that for himself…
I’m here as a neutral, but my point was before saying bad stuff about a company, let’s here there side of the story

MrBoom · Feb 10, 2025

Or. We can take their actions into account and hold them accountable. Remember, actions speak louder than words.

MrBoom · Feb 10, 2025

Not sure why my review was deleted from the website. I only posted the facts from my experience with the product.

Iskandar · Feb 10, 2025

MrBoom said:
Not sure why my review was deleted from the website. I only posted the facts from my experience with the product.

Iskandar · Feb 10, 2025

Let us -shift tech-,

and maybe we can use 698 forum power to somehow encourage the specialists like woolich racing to flash the ecu of the 698? If they have a preview of multiple interested owners? Just a thought.

MrBoom · Feb 10, 2025

I would buy a quality ECU flash.

Iskandar · Feb 10, 2025

MrBoom said:
I would buy a quality ECU flash.

That makes two.

Wiggum · Feb 11, 2025

Iskandar said:
That makes two.

As far as I know, the best thing we can do for now is put a request in for our bikes on Woolich’s website- this official request becomes a ‘ ticket’ in their system. Only when they get enough requests for a certain or new bike, will they try to do the work to make the ecu tunable. Then the various tuners can offer their flashes.
I put a request in at Woolich last July

Iskandar · Feb 12, 2025

Wiggum said:
As far as I know, the best thing we can do for now is put a request in for our bikes on Woolich’s website- this official request becomes a ‘ ticket’ in their system. Only when they get enough requests for a certain or new bike, will they try to do the work to make the ecu tunable. Then the various tuners can offer their flashes.
I put a request in at Woolich last July

I also made a ticket.

Wiggum · Feb 12, 2025

roadkillrob · Feb 13, 2025

Wiggum said:
As far as I know, the best thing we can do for now is put a request in for our bikes on Woolich’s website- this official request becomes a ‘ ticket’ in their system. Only when they get enough requests for a certain or new bike, will they try to do the work to make the ecu tunable. Then the various tuners can offer their flashes.
I put a request in at Woolich last July

But mine in last Spring also - seems like it is always a few years at least for new ECU's to get cracked, hopefully Ducati starts using the same or similar ECU's in many more models, that should help also!

MrBoom · Friday at 3:54 AM

I did a ticket at the beginning of the week.

Hopefully someone can provide a quality product.

Iskandar · Sunday at 4:13 PM

Iskandar said:
I will alter my switching intake air temp diy sensor, to go real low in temp below minus 8 and measure the OBD readings. If indeed the fuel trim goes up with 5% then it more or less works equally as the front sensor.

So here are my test results for putting the intake air temperature sensor between -9C and -15C. Not what I expected and in my humble opinion not the same results as with the front sensor. Please check my post on page 4 of this gizmo.

Outside ambient air temp was 5C then, now 6C, which makes the circumstances more or less similar.

So I placed a 15k resistor in the socket which gave a reading of -9C.
During warm up no STFC (short term fuel compensation). When the engine was warm, the STFC went between +0,78% and -2,34%. Not very constant.

I then placed a 10k thermistor in the socket of the air intake sensor, just as I did with the front air intake sensor. The temp reading gave a ‘max’ of -15C.
The STFC was between +0,78% and +2.34%. It could be that when I am able to lower the air intake temp reading to -18/19 which I previously achieved with the front outside air temp sensor, the fuel compensation goes up to approx. 5%.

I need one more test to figure out if the short term fuel compensation goes into the +5% range when I am able to bring the temperature down to -18/-19C.

Conclusion: with the same components the front outside air temp sensor got lower readings (approx. 4C) compared to the air intake sensor.

The above was expected due to engine heat.

What I did not expected was the lower STFC hovering around 0% with a max of +2,34%.

Mo_tarded64 · Monday at 11:36 AM

Iskandar said:
So here are my test results for putting the intake air temperature sensor between -9C and -15C. Not what I expected and in my humble opinion not the same results as with the front sensor. Please check my post on page 4 of this gizmo.

Outside ambient air temp was 5C then, now 6C, which makes the circumstances more or less similar.

View attachment 5102

So I placed a 15k resistor in the socket which gave a reading of -9C.
During warm up no STFC (short term fuel compensation). When the engine was warm, the STFC went between +0,78% and -2,34%. Not very constant.

View attachment 5103

I then placed a 10k thermistor in the socket of the air intake sensor, just as I did with the front air intake sensor. The temp reading gave a ‘max’ of -15C.
The STFC was between +0,78% and +2.34%. It could be that when I am able to lower the air intake temp reading to -18/19 which I previously achieved with the front outside air temp sensor, the fuel compensation goes up to approx. 5%.

View attachment 5096

View attachment 5100
I need one more test to figure out if the short term fuel compensation goes into the +5% range when I am able to bring the temperature down to -18/-19C.

Conclusion: with the same components the front outside air temp sensor got lower readings (approx. 4C) compared to the air intake sensor.

The above was expected due to engine heat.

What I did not expected was the lower STFC hovering around 0% with a max of +2,34%.

So, what is your distilled conclusion about efficacy y of this device?

Any feedback on this fuel fix gizmo ?

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