Hyperstrada problem list
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My Hyper has been to the dealer in Bangkok, Thailand 3 times now after covering 1,000km and the only explanation they gave me was that I am using the throttle incorrectly, I'm not supposed to blip the throttle when downshifting. Thus is the reason my bike has a pronounced metal to metal knocking sound, almost like piston slap.
However, I was not able to replicate the sounds on 2 other hyper's at the service center nor was I able to reproduce it on the demo 821 monster they had.
I was also given an explanation on how a L-Twin works and that blipping the throttle is bad for an L-Twin. I have a S2R 1000 that I've used for 8 years and despite being an air cooled engine with cable throttle, I never had any issues riding it the same way.
I am now reluctant to ride my hyper until I can get a hold of someone that would be willing to investigate and diagnose the real issue with the bike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0tBO3FMuRc
However, I was not able to replicate the sounds on 2 other hyper's at the service center nor was I able to reproduce it on the demo 821 monster they had.
I was also given an explanation on how a L-Twin works and that blipping the throttle is bad for an L-Twin. I have a S2R 1000 that I've used for 8 years and despite being an air cooled engine with cable throttle, I never had any issues riding it the same way.
I am now reluctant to ride my hyper until I can get a hold of someone that would be willing to investigate and diagnose the real issue with the bike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0tBO3FMuRc
I too am in Bangkok, and have had no issues. I have never had a sound like you are experiencing. Feel free to contact me if you would like to drop by and compare our bikes. Send me a pm.
Hi,
i spoke to my dealer, he says that is true and utter ********.
If possible change the dealer!
I am the master of blipping when I downshift. Done that with my Monster for almost 26000 Km without problem and with my Hyper about 8600 Km.
Also I do that with my VW Beetle for 26 years now...
At the correct number of revs, blipping does help reducing the wear on your
gearbox....
Best of Luck Stephan
well, I heard a similar story though.
The mechanic who took care of my 996 told me that blipping the throttle on a (slightly) tuned Ducati may cause some "sneezing" back into the airfilter. Sort of a backfire.
Nothing to worry about that but it could cause some burn marks on the airfilter. Something like that.
I have always been told that using the throttle on a bike/car without load (so in neutral for example) is not good for your bearings. But then again: I am not a mechanical engineer.
The mechanic who took care of my 996 told me that blipping the throttle on a (slightly) tuned Ducati may cause some "sneezing" back into the airfilter. Sort of a backfire.
Nothing to worry about that but it could cause some burn marks on the airfilter. Something like that.
I have always been told that using the throttle on a bike/car without load (so in neutral for example) is not good for your bearings. But then again: I am not a mechanical engineer.
Joined Nov 2013
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Inland SoCal
Matching revs is always important when you let the clutch out on normal gearboxes, less so with a slipper clutch although it does increase wear. I agree that revving the bike in neutral is hard on it, but blipping the throttle on downshifts is not. The Triumph 900 we rented in the UK back in 1997 had obviously spent some time bouncing off the rev limiter, likely in neutral. It ran like poo, would not do 80 two-up.
I've learned to downshift approaching 'stale green' lights or stops on my bikes, as most don't like to be downshifted at a standstill. If I don't let the clutch out, I don't bother matching revs.
I've learned to downshift approaching 'stale green' lights or stops on my bikes, as most don't like to be downshifted at a standstill. If I don't let the clutch out, I don't bother matching revs.
Joined Mar 2013
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Naples, IT
I cringe when I hear the I-4's just pinning the throttle to hear it bounce off the limiter. All the old stalwarts still say needless reving hurts the bearings but how can you not crack the 821 every so often standing still? Every thing in moderation...except bourbon and ***. Happy New Year!
I have similar problem on my 2013 Hyperstrada (12k miles now), driving purely in the UK. When i downshift and blip the throttle, sometimes even on idle when parking i hear something like backfire back into airbox. I am tempted to blame this on the timing of this "blip" and intake valve closing timing.
Maybe valve clearance adjustment might resolve this? I guess i will see after another 4k miles when i am due to have valve clearance service.
I have K&N airfilter installed that i cleaned few months back and couldnt see any "burn" marks in the airbox
Adding to the list of problems i had so far with my Hyperstrada 2013:
- ECU, coils, Dash replacement in the first year of the bike
- whole clutch replacement in the first year as the clutch was jerky/ not engaging smoothly
- water radiator leak after 2.5years (out of warranty) - Ducati confirmed faulty part, replaced radiator and fans for free, i've paid for the labor
- now, it looks like i have a faulty thermostat as the water rushes into the radiator when only 40 degrees Celsius warm, but overheating when driving in the town (only explanation i have is that the thermostat is slightly open but not opening fully on higher temps)
Maybe valve clearance adjustment might resolve this? I guess i will see after another 4k miles when i am due to have valve clearance service.
I have K&N airfilter installed that i cleaned few months back and couldnt see any "burn" marks in the airbox
Adding to the list of problems i had so far with my Hyperstrada 2013:
- ECU, coils, Dash replacement in the first year of the bike
- whole clutch replacement in the first year as the clutch was jerky/ not engaging smoothly
- water radiator leak after 2.5years (out of warranty) - Ducati confirmed faulty part, replaced radiator and fans for free, i've paid for the labor
- now, it looks like i have a faulty thermostat as the water rushes into the radiator when only 40 degrees Celsius warm, but overheating when driving in the town (only explanation i have is that the thermostat is slightly open but not opening fully on higher temps)
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The backfire pop is one of the pleasures of banging down the gears with the slipper. I think it just does this - I'm guessing ducati worked hard to make this happen.
no, that was not hard for ducati.
it does it by its own simply because it's so lean in standard config.
with richer afr, by deactivating o2/lamda-regulation with rexxer oder any other sw, popping will decrease a lot, unfortunatly.
at my guzzi stelvio it completly disappeared. my hs still has some popping, but much less than stock.
heyb guys ...having problem with the engine light coming on ...its been in service centre and so far they have looked at all the sensors and replaced the oxygen valves reset the ecu etc ...
was working great for few days and then out of nowhere the light no is permanently on
any ideas
thanks
was working great for few days and then out of nowhere the light no is permanently on
any ideas
thanks
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Brooklyn NY
My 2016 Strada with 1025 miles on it had the Disco light issue and wouldn't start 2 days before a scheduled trip to Nova Scotia this past summer....had to jettison the Strada and load up my Buell Ulysses. Ducati Manhattan replaced the ECU under warranty and they tell me I need to put a few miles on it to be sure the ECU is working properly. Very rough idle at first, but it seems to be getting better the more I drive it. Fingers crossed.
Joined Sep 2019
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Mumbai
I have a Hyper 821 2014. i am facing the same Disco Light with a CAN Line error on the display. Luckily i was home and i had to move the bike when the lights and RPM line started blinking with fan turning on. I also had the rear indicator and the taillights blinking.
I dont know if this will be covered in warranty. Its going to be nothing less than 2000$ for the job in India.
keeping my fingers crossed.
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This should be covered under warranty if your warranty is still in force.
Generally here i have observed more issues with hypermotard than hyperstradas, its strange really.
Generally here i have observed more issues with hypermotard than hyperstradas, its strange really.
Joined Sep 2019
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Mumbai
Thanks Srikz.
I am taking it to SVC day after. But before that wanted to check all Electricals because ive read posts on Ducati's CAN LINE error being triggered often by moisture and wet connectors categorically BBS unit, ECU and Dash unit. ECU and dash are fairly accessible but BBS is under the tank. I am keeping my fingers crossed by trying to get moisture out by hot blowers but the rains since yesterday in Mumbai are not letting me step out!
Ridden through rain and my bike is stored under a cover outside - never had an issue, but it might be wetter where you are!. You can easily pull the ecu connectors and look for corrosion and put some dielectric grease on the pins Might be a good idea to do this wherever you can.
Assuming all technical bulletins have been taken care of, including the canbus filter, ducati seems good about goodwill repairs on big failures. best of luck.
Joined Sep 2019
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Mumbai
Thanks buddy!
Will update the post once done at SVC. I did try to go out but rains played a spoilt sport not letting me stripdown the plastics. Anyways if it doesn't rain tomorrow, will surely take to SVC for a check. Hoping that i dont get a big bill! Fingers crossed
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