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To be honest I ignored that part. Oil pump looks good and so did oil filter so you think the strainer being dirty caused it? I still have to pull it out it had that washer lodged into it and I think it broke off the bolt head base when I tried to unscrew.
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Yes, that's the whole point of it being cleaned every other service.(especially since you have a really high mileage bike!)
Its probably been blocked up and been sucked through the engine due to high differential pressure.
The whole oil gallery system will need a flush and blow through.
Check the oil pump. Clean the sump out.
Hopefully the crank and big end bearings are ok?
Spin engine over with no plugs in next time to check that the oil is getting up and around the engine.
Hope that people reading this that do their own servicing are checking that the strainer is cleaned and checked. If not, now would be a good time to check it.
The strainer is only marked for cleaning at the first (600 mile) service. It's supposed to catch any big chunks of debris, excess silicone sealant, etc during initial engine assembly. After that it's just regular oil and filter changes. There really shouldn't be any chunks of metal floating around, only microscopic particles for the oil filter to catch. It has got to be a defective part, or improper assembly during maintenance.
My vote is that the other half of that washer/spacer thing is lodged in a passageway to your rear cylinder. Remove it (and any other chunks) and you will be okay. mentalist makes a good point about other parts being damaged that rely on oil pressure, but kinda hard to tell unless you take everything apart.
I am still trying to figure out what that metal piece is. Is it as big as it seems... about 1.5 inches across? I tried looking at the parts diagrams and it's nearly impossible to tell what they look like.
My vote is that the other half of that washer/spacer thing is lodged in a passageway to your rear cylinder. Remove it (and any other chunks) and you will be okay. mentalist makes a good point about other parts being damaged that rely on oil pressure, but kinda hard to tell unless you take everything apart.
I am still trying to figure out what that metal piece is. Is it as big as it seems... about 1.5 inches across? I tried looking at the parts diagrams and it's nearly impossible to tell what they look like.
check your oil, is it milky and full of coolant?
if you just filled it after draining , the level will go down as all the air bubbles purge, and you need to top up. That would be normal.
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If you google Ducati and how often to clean the mesh filter, you will see that its done at initial 1st service and then every other oil change. I know the manual for our bike only has it marked for the 600 on the hyper, but that may be wrong.
I've always done mine every other service, because thats how i've been taught and having owned other Ducati's that was the norm.
I've always done mine every other service, because thats how i've been taught and having owned other Ducati's that was the norm.
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Extract from our manual for the Hyperstrada page 134.
Every two oil changes, clean the oil pickup gauze filter.
Loosen the external plug (5) and recover the sealing washer (6).
Loosen and remove the filtering element (7).
Loosen the lower plug (8) and recover the sealing washer (9).
Clean the filter with fuel and compressed air. Take care not to damage the mesh.
Every two oil changes, clean the oil pickup gauze filter.
Loosen the external plug (5) and recover the sealing washer (6).
Loosen and remove the filtering element (7).
Loosen the lower plug (8) and recover the sealing washer (9).
Clean the filter with fuel and compressed air. Take care not to damage the mesh.
Yeah it's a huge peice of washer. Barely got it out the strainer hole. You guys reckon I could remove the cylinder from engine and leave it in the bike or will have to drop engine out? At around 50k my bike was fine! I saw the cams when I did the desmo adjust. W.E this is I think it happened when I rented it out for a day. It's too coincidental. That washer might be a clue. I have no access to a computer right now though so can't look at the diagrams
Interesting, and confusing that there is contradicting info! Not the first time I've seen that in a service manual though...
When you clean yours do you regularly see junk on it?
Post some pics of that strainer.
Depending on how much you want to dive into the engine disassembly, at some point it might make sense to try to find a used engine and just replace the whole thing. I can't imagine that new head was very cheap, so you will want to make 100% sure the rest of that metal is cleaned out before buying another, and do a once over on the other rotating parts.
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When I've cleaned mine it's not been that contaminated to worry about anything, but it did need cleaning. On earlier engines it was a good sign to see if the coating on the rockers was coming off as you'd see small shiny bright flakes.
I change my oil every 4500miles and check the mesh filter every 9k. I've heard of excessive sealant use, like three bond blocking the mesh filter. Didn't the op say he'd done the clutch upgrade?
I change my oil every 4500miles and check the mesh filter every 9k. I've heard of excessive sealant use, like three bond blocking the mesh filter. Didn't the op say he'd done the clutch upgrade?
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Since my first Ducati in 2000, I’ve always checked the strainer at every oil change, and that was back when the recommended intervals were much more often. It only takes a couple more minutes while you’re in there. It’s crazy enough that Ducati now recommends the oil changes at 15000 kms, but to recommend only checking that filter every other change is mind blowing.
So my oil plugs that sit between crankcase and piston jug were completely blocked off. No oil was able to get to the heads. That washer that I found broken still don't know where it come from our where other half currently is. I'm guessing that happenes first and broke strainer allowing gunk to clog my lines. Will continue tearing into crankcase and post more later.
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I believe the washer came from behind the magneto. There is no washer where the parts fiche calls for one. I will order the washer and compare it to my mystery piece and then reassemble. Question though, both crank bearings have what feels like play to them. Are these suppose to be this way or are they shot? They have like twist to them almost. Are they a special bearing?
I would think you'd want the washer there to deal with some of the thrust loading.
Crank bearings usually have some wiggle but what you DON'T want is radial play. That would mean they are shot. Also any roughness or clunking would be bad.
Crank bearings usually have some wiggle but what you DON'T want is radial play. That would mean they are shot. Also any roughness or clunking would be bad.
All internals look good and the piston bores still have the crosshatch on them. Think I'm good to button her back up and ride another 60k or should I replace the crank bearings? I've always changed oil at around 4-6k and the oil clogs did not affect anything but the top ends it seems. Crank bearings are very pricey or I would not even ask I'd just replace. Just looking for some group opinion. And thanks for info on the washer not being there and the radial play thing
