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Throttle issues

It is much more like non electronic throttle. It feels like my old st3, unless the engine is still very responsive. You don't crank it on on a bump on the road like with the previous one

I wonder if this will be a voluntary recall. I don't like the sensitive throttle. Did you receive any service bulletin or part numbers with the invoice?
 
There was no invoice, this was a warranty change due to throttle random failure. There is no recall.
 
Hey riders

I have the problem that i have a hanging throttle and my dealer meant
That this would be the third issue this Last 2 weeks.

Greetz
 
Had a couple recent limp mode start-ups. Always on cold start but no other correlation besides that.

However, I did notice something as it happened 2 mornings in a row. The turnover upon ignition was different with limp mode starts. Normally, the intial turnover is a bit higher than idle rpm- it fires up a bit high and settles into cold idle rpm. I noticed on both limp mode starts, it fired up very low and muffled and stepped up to cold idle rpm.

I'm guessing maybe this low stumble light off trips an internal fail safe and sets the low power mode. I never get a CEL and a quick running restart always clears it. I don't believe I've ever gotten a subsequent limp mode start after the bike has been run once for the day.

So, I can only guess that it could be how the bike is shutdown that sets it up for this bad ignition. I usually kill the bike early on the roll into a parking spot with the thumb kill switch. Why- because I saw somebody do it many years ago and I thought it was cool...nevermind that part. I always use the kill switch regardless of when I kill the engine. Does it have something to do with how the pistons/valves line-up upon shutdown? Other possibility is throttle pick-ups, as my tech suggested.

Some of you smart guys get in on this. I'm talking to you, Zippy.
 
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I usually kill the bike early on the roll into a parking spot with the thumb kill switch. Why- because I saw somebody do it many years ago and I thought it was cool...nevermind that part. I always use the kill switch regardless of when I kill the engine. Does it have something to do with how the pistons/valves line-up upon shutdown? Other possibility is throttle pick-ups, as my tech suggested.

I just turn it off by using the key when I am stopped.

The service manager at the dealer insists that it's probably a battery issue.

I'm using a Shorai battery, it seems to be strong and has no trouble cranking.
 
No battery issues here (knock on wood), the fix for the throttle is to not overfill the tank and to disconnect and cap the hose going from the evaporator to the manifold. It takes about 6 minutes to complete.
 
Had a couple recent limp mode start-ups. Always on cold start but no other correlation besides that.

However, I did notice something as it happened 2 mornings in a row. The turnover upon ignition was different with limp mode starts. Normally, the intial turnover is a bit higher than idle rpm- it fires up a bit high and settles into cold idle rpm. I noticed on both limp mode starts, it fired up very low and muffled and stepped up to cold idle rpm.

I'm guessing maybe this low stumble light off trips an internal fail safe and sets the low power mode. I never get a CEL and a quick running restart always clears it. I don't believe I've ever gotten a subsequent limp mode start after the bike has been run once for the day.

So, I can only guess that it could be how the bike is shutdown that sets it up for this bad ignition. I usually kill the bike early on the roll into a parking spot with the thumb kill switch. Why- because I saw somebody do it many years ago and I thought it was cool...nevermind that part. I always use the kill switch regardless of when I kill the engine. Does it have something to do with how the pistons/valves line-up upon shutdown? Other possibility is throttle pick-ups, as my tech suggested.

Some of you smart guys get in on this. I'm talking to you, Zippy.

I only know that my situation and habits are different than most. First, I don't have to commute anywhere anymore. 99% of my riding is canyons or getting there & back. I always stop the bike with the key, and it stays there most of the time. I never touch the kill switch. I keep the Shorai on a Mini Tender some of the time, and it always cranks over fine. The bike has never been rained on and I don't wash it much, just spot clean with a rag. It lives in an attached, well insulated garage in desert-ish conditions. So sensitive metal bits tend not to corrode. YMMV.

So my only guess is that perhaps the rheostat in the throttle control is not staying sealed well enough, or that some other connection/component is the culprit for similar reasons. Got heated grips? But these things run Canbus, don't they? A decent dealer should be able to figure it out. And when Ducati gets enough warranty claims, they will fix it. Again, it might take a friendly dealer to find out.

In the immortal words of Arthur C. Clarke, "That which is sufficiently technologically advanced is indistinguishable from magic."
 
Throttle Unit replaced

I have never read 3 pages of thread so anxiously to get to the end.. I have had all of the problems listed and last week the bike had the worst behavior than ever before. It essentially tried to kill me and would not stop giving throttle at 50mph. I had to shut the bike off on the highway (and on the road by the dealership when attempting to recreate the issue for my dealer).

After waiting a few days, they replaced the entire throttle unit under warranty and sent me on my way. One of the guys mentioned that it could have been from riding in so much rain on the way back from my trip to IndyGP. That was by far the worst downpour I have ever ridden in and I did not experience the throttle issue until a couple days after.

As for the limp mode action; this has always been an issue. I just got the bike back yesterday so I'll be paying attention.. It is sort of scary..

PS: the Monster 696 clutch is so much easier to operate than the Hyper's sloppy cable clutch. Why did they switch over again?
 
Skynet is slowing trying to take us all out...

That sucks. It would scare the crap out of me and I imagine you'll always have that fear it will happen again. That would suck some of the fun out of riding and enjoying it.

For me, anyway.
 
After waiting a few days, they replaced the entire throttle unit under warranty and sent me on my way. One of the guys mentioned that it could have been from riding in so much rain on the way back from my trip to IndyGP.


They really said that? That's absurd - it's motorcycle and the controls are exposed to the weather - it should be able to deal with rain etc.. I haven't had the issue , but I think I'll be traveling with contact cleaner.

Keep us posted on the results of the throttle replacement.
 
I'm new on the forum but I've been following the threads a while ago, because the Ducati launched here in Brazil Hyperstrada only in July / 2014.
Since its launch, I have visited the dealerships to purchase a Hyperstrada.
Now in November, I will get the bike, but I'm noticing the bike has a chronic problem in the accelerator.
Let me see if I understand the situation, and lock the throttle is open?
The why of this question is that will be a point that will relate to the dealer at the time of acquisition.
I see a major problem with, so I would understand the right process for you are more in the know than me.
 
@ Renato

Enjoy to ride your Hyperstrada, the only thing you have to make sure you have the last software update on ECU! The 2014 bike have a few updates already!The most important thing be nice to the
Hyper;)

Gruss Steffen
 
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same issue with mine and the dealer replaced the throttle sensor. I will get the actual part name and part number and post it back here and let you know if it worked or not. It will also they say stop the herk and jerk on acceleration.

Mike
 
Hi guys,

I've experienced the same issue as well. It was last week when I went to flag off for a convoy. It was raining quite heavily. At the traffic light, I noticed the warning light on the dashboard flashed 3 times. Just ignored it anyway. And when I reached the flag off location, already stop and just when I released my hand from throttle suddenly it speed up & moved my bike forward, hitting 2 other bikes in front. My bike fell down but the engine kept running, which is weird because I've released the clutch & throttle. The engine should shut off if it fell down. I have to turn off the key. Some damage at the front light & the bike loses the brake when it is moving. Need to send to dealer this weekend. Will update the outcome.
 
Hi guys,

I've experienced the same issue as well. It was last week when I went to flag off for a convoy. It was raining quite heavily. At the traffic light, I noticed the warning light on the dashboard flashed 3 times. Just ignored it anyway. And when I reached the flag off location, already stop and just when I released my hand from throttle suddenly it speed up & moved my bike forward, hitting 2 other bikes in front. My bike fell down but the engine kept running, which is weird because I've released the clutch & throttle. The engine should shut off if it fell down. I have to turn off the key. Some damage at the front light & the bike loses the brake when it is moving. Need to send to dealer this weekend. Will update the outcome.

The APS throttle sensor has to be replaced. They actually replace the entire right grip assy. No problems anymore since mine was replaced.

Replaced the APS throttle sensor/ actually replaced whole right grip assy. Heated grips installed on mine that was replaced with new right grip, can also affect regular grips.
 
Hi guys,

I've experienced the same issue as well. It was last week when I went to flag off for a convoy. It was raining quite heavily. At the traffic light, I noticed the warning light on the dashboard flashed 3 times. Just ignored it anyway. And when I reached the flag off location, already stop and just when I released my hand from throttle suddenly it speed up & moved my bike forward, hitting 2 other bikes in front. My bike fell down but the engine kept running, which is weird because I've released the clutch & throttle. The engine should shut off if it fell down. I have to turn off the key. Some damage at the front light & the bike loses the brake when it is moving. Need to send to dealer this weekend. Will update the outcome.

Sorry about your accident but I'm not understanding what happened here. If you were stopped, either your clutch was in , or you're in neutral - how did the bike go forward - regardless of throttle response?

Also - are you sure the light you saw flashing wasn't traction control?

Also - I'm not sure but - don't see why the bike would stop running when it fell - if the rear tire is off the ground it will just rotate in first gear.
 
Most modern bikes have a shut-off switch that activates when the bike is on its side. This is to prevent engine damage when the oil pickup is not submerged.

The more I read posts like this the more I think these parts (esp. the throttle) are not adequately sealed from water entry. My bike has never been wet, and has had zero problems. I assume everyone already knows not to use high pressure to wash a bike.

PS I always shift to neutral when coming to a stop, an old habit from Velocettes which are difficult to downshift when already stopped at a light.
 
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I agree that there was potentially some user error with this mishap. Maybe thought you were in neutral and released clutch? Definitely sounds like the traction control lights you saw and nobody has reported a quick flashing CEL.

I always slip into neutral just before full stop. It's good practice if you have to find a badge for work or pay a toll with a line of angry cars behind you.