This could be a flaw. I can't promise I'll solve it but I will look into it now that I have the schematics. Without knowing inner workings of the ECU I might be SOL...
I will use 2 TVS zener diode (1 for Can_H; 1 for Can_L; both Anode(+) wire to ground). I will install it for Dash, ECU, ABS, BBS then I will test the transient voltage ! I have checked all relays, regulator, alternator; they're ok ! But now I wonder about Fan of radiator, they're brush motor which make a lot of transient voltage, but they did not used relay, they connected directly to BBS, then make a lot of noise to can bus system !
Joined Nov 2013
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Inland SoCal
In Cali, if there is an outstanding "NHTSA Safety Recall" (actual proper name) the DMV won't let you renew your registration. I worked for a vehicle manufacturer years ago, and we always preferred to do a "product upgrade" instead as we actually got better response that way and didn't have to do all the NHTSA reporting paperwork. Plus the Feds got unhappy if we didn't get at least 50% of the problem units.
So I think that Ducati is doing it right.
PS Also, these dash failures have not caused any serious injuries or deaths. That tends to get the Feds' attention.
Sounds like it's worth a try. These will only protect from spikes and over voltage. If the problem is interference or noise related you'll need to remedy that too. I'd start with some clamp on EMI/RFI/EMC Filters for the power feed wires for each module.
I have a 2013 hyperstrada with 10k that has never given me a problem ever.
last week I went for canbus recall and I'm having problem starting the bike in the morning. it turns on for a sec or two and dies, I have try give it few tries before it eventually starting.
yesterday while I was cracking it up the neutral light disappeared and it took while before I figure it out why was not even responding....weird
I called the dealer and of course first thing he said while being defensive was that my battery is almost dead.
any suggestions what maybe going on ?
last week I went for canbus recall and I'm having problem starting the bike in the morning. it turns on for a sec or two and dies, I have try give it few tries before it eventually starting.
yesterday while I was cracking it up the neutral light disappeared and it took while before I figure it out why was not even responding....weird
I called the dealer and of course first thing he said while being defensive was that my battery is almost dead.
any suggestions what maybe going on ?
thank you but its resolved. brought the bike back to the dealership and they checked the wiring and found that they had screwed up something.
fixed and life goes on.
fixed and life goes on.
How do you find out about these? I put my VIN on Ducati's website and it didn't return anything.
Joined Oct 2015
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Minnesota
It's been repeated here at least a hundred times: These are not recalls, they are TSBs. Something Ducati does not publish to the public, only to their dealer network. Call your dealer and ask them to check on your VIN.
Yes, and by "public" you mean "People who bought the bike". Clever policy: Find out on a forum, or every 9000 miles if you take your bike to a dealer. Now that's customer service!
A lot of times the dealer doesn't even find out about it until they run a VIN.
Called my dealer and they have the parts so I'm doing it on the 20th....
UPDATE: Took about an hour and half. Runs the same (expected). With my mods and my consuming most of the remaining room behind the headlight, he had a fit adding the filters in there but it's in.
UPDATE: Took about an hour and half. Runs the same (expected). With my mods and my consuming most of the remaining room behind the headlight, he had a fit adding the filters in there but it's in.
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Sounds like a good dealer.
I've whined about this before because they did the same thing with the TCU. If you have a fix for the problem, everyone who bought the bike should be notified by ducati. Seems like good customer service should be part of the ducati luxury pretensions.
Perhaps, they should think of it as a "lifestyle" issue - I always get "lifestyle" promos from ducati. They're good at that.
I wish Ducati will cooperate with Japanese electronic companies in the future. Now, our big problem seem 90% is about ignition coils, but in some cases, replaced the coils has not solve the problem ( like Snowcat)
This canbus repair does relate to the coils - those spikes affected the cpu - the coils relate to the cpu. In truth, the coil thing isn't very common, and ducati did good faith repairs. Generally it's a solid reliable machine.
Joined Apr 2017
244 Posts | 1+
California
Just read this whole thread and Kuksul's post above is the most informative for me, but thanks TO ALL for all the info and feed back!
THANKS! I bought my Strada used and asked them to update any TSB's, they said they did. But now I'm going to want PROOF that it's been done.
Is it easy to spot the work on the bike? Where is the filter installed?
Bike has been fine, no Dash issues I've seen ... but I'm new and know little about this bike and never had a Dash like this one.
I'll check back in with the dealer owner next time to get documentation on what has been done, or not.
AKAIK, a recall or TSB covers anyone who owns the bike and is, in effect whether warranty is still valid or not. Recalls are forever from what I
understand, no time limit and not just for original owner.
Will report back what experience I have. I a little nervous to let the shop Monkeys mess around with my bike, because as of now, not one problem.
I could see some unskilled mechs making things worse ... not better.
You're right about can filter (It's really working good job) ! But let's see what happens in the future ! Somethings will be dangerous more the dashboard !
Service bulletin number
Does anyone have the Service bulletin number for the CANbus warranty fix ? Before I head off to the dealer , i would like to send them the number in advance so that they can have the parts and details needed. I have a good 200 mile ride down to the dealer for this.
Does anyone have the Service bulletin number for the CANbus warranty fix ? Before I head off to the dealer , i would like to send them the number in advance so that they can have the parts and details needed. I have a good 200 mile ride down to the dealer for this.
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