Joined May 2015
925 Posts | 9+
Dallas, Texas
Well then, to each their own.
I enjoy riding the mountain passes on quiet backroads, the curves, the views, the time spent with friends along on my rides.
No emotional desire/need to trumpet my arrival, no need to announce to law enforcement my approach, nor any need to piss off the non-riding public.
I share Americas public lands with countless others. Others who are out there to experience nature too. NOT out there to listen to loud modified exhausts of the motoring public. People staring at those with LOUD exhaust aren't think that it is cool, no they are thinking ill of those imposing their unnecessary noise on others.
So, who is polite in their approach and who is rude?
I enjoy riding the mountain passes on quiet backroads, the curves, the views, the time spent with friends along on my rides.
No emotional desire/need to trumpet my arrival, no need to announce to law enforcement my approach, nor any need to piss off the non-riding public.
I share Americas public lands with countless others. Others who are out there to experience nature too. NOT out there to listen to loud modified exhausts of the motoring public. People staring at those with LOUD exhaust aren't think that it is cool, no they are thinking ill of those imposing their unnecessary noise on others.
So, who is polite in their approach and who is rude?
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Joined Mar 2013
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Naples, IT
The govt has reclaimed skads of acreage and banned motorized vehicles. People looking for peaceful reflection should go there.
The rest is legal to enjoy on 2 or more wheels. I have no reservation taking my EPA noise-compliant exhaust booming down said fairways.
The rest is legal to enjoy on 2 or more wheels. I have no reservation taking my EPA noise-compliant exhaust booming down said fairways.
Joined May 2015
925 Posts | 9+
Dallas, Texas
That's not the issue, as stock exhaust note (EPA, DOT & USFS compliant) exhausts aren't the issue. It's the modified exhaust systems, which meet no standard that are the issue.
I share the same forest trails as horse riders, bicycle riders, ATVers, Jeeps and other motorcycles. We all need to cooperate for everyone to be safe and have a good time. For example: The bicycle riders need to make some noise so that they don't spook the horses, often a little bell offers the right sound. Motorcycle riders need to stop and idle as the horses pass before continuing. The slow Jeep guys move over to let the bicycles and motorcycles easily pass. We all work together, so that we all have fun.
Everyone here has been around the Harley parades with so many straight exhausts. No wonder so many so many communities are upset.
If a rider really wants more power, there are bikes that offer much more than they could ever use. For nearly the same weight as the Hyper, the KTM Super Duke offers nearly double the usable power, with the stock exhaust.
You guys obviously just ride your hypers out in the woods , so this all makes sense .,
I ride mine on motorways , fast sweeping A Roads and through towns and cities ., a louder pipe is considered a safety thing ... be heard !
But i also have a dirt bike which i ride through the woods / trails on a stock pipe ..... for all your reasons mentioned above .
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I ride mine on motorways , fast sweeping A Roads and through towns and cities ., a louder pipe is considered a safety thing ... be heard !
But i also have a dirt bike which i ride through the woods / trails on a stock pipe ..... for all your reasons mentioned above .
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Joined Mar 2013
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Naples, IT
RSL, in this forum, you're talking about a very niche environment. This bike is obviously more street than dirt.
If one of your desires when purchasing a machine is it's respectful note so as not to disturb animals and trail-walkers, that's cool. I don't think the majority of Motard-line buyers share that pre-req. In fact, when I first started my demo bike, all I remember uttering was, "Sweet!"
You're kinda stumping for something that is near and dear to your heart (the public trail riding, not db level of exhaust systems), and obviously not many here can relate.
I agree. In fact it would be a crime to take a hyper off road.
Joined May 2015
925 Posts | 9+
Dallas, Texas
your choice mate. I would not do that. far too expensive if it goes over on it`s ear !
Joined May 2015
925 Posts | 9+
Dallas, Texas
Isn't the point of the Ducati Hyper to go places people on their Harleys don't go?
To enjoy the capabilities designed into the bike? Remember it is a Supermoto, capable of easy off-road AND super twisty roads.
Riding freeways, A & B roads is so limiting.
The stock exhaust, with the valve for high RPM added air passage, is plenty of noise.
I'll be on this road in a couple months. The last thing I want to do is piss off the locals.
Making a lot of noise adds nothing to the experience riding these backroads offers.
To enjoy the capabilities designed into the bike? Remember it is a Supermoto, capable of easy off-road AND super twisty roads.
Riding freeways, A & B roads is so limiting.
The stock exhaust, with the valve for high RPM added air passage, is plenty of noise.
I'll be on this road in a couple months. The last thing I want to do is piss off the locals.
Making a lot of noise adds nothing to the experience riding these backroads offers.
This is absurd. I camp and drive on NFS and BLM land 5 weeks out of the year and love it. The EPA etc. have preserved these lands and saved many thousands of lives in the process.
If you want to see what this kind of uninformed cynicism reaps, and how easy it is to manipulate, here's a starting point: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/19/bureau-land-management-federal-lease
There's always room for informed criticism, but I say get smart before things you take for granted disappear.
Joined May 2015
925 Posts | 9+
Dallas, Texas
Too many riders care more about their own pleasure and not enough concern for those surrounding them. Loud exhaust often times is justified as "saving lives" or "expressing my freedom". Silly reasoning at best, as there are far more focused means of warning oncoming traffic of your approach, like LED spot lights. Sharp and focused where it is needed to keep you much safer, while NOT bothering others.
I find that loud Harleys are in reality warning much faster traffic approaching from behind, as I see RVs, trucks and a line of cars behind most LOUD parades.
No, when I ride, I want to be left alone and in exchange I will endeavor to not bother others.
I find that loud Harleys are in reality warning much faster traffic approaching from behind, as I see RVs, trucks and a line of cars behind most LOUD parades.
No, when I ride, I want to be left alone and in exchange I will endeavor to not bother others.
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Joined May 2015
925 Posts | 9+
Dallas, Texas
Race bikes on a track, or loud exhaust for your track days, that is appropriate. People expect that noise level there, many even enjoying it.
In a nutshell, there are appropriate places to make all the noise you desire.
Rural towns, public lands, neighborhoods of residences, etc... are NOT appropriate places to blast away with modified exhaust noise.
We all share the land, and the best way to do that is to be polite and considerate of others.
In a nutshell, there are appropriate places to make all the noise you desire.
Rural towns, public lands, neighborhoods of residences, etc... are NOT appropriate places to blast away with modified exhaust noise.
We all share the land, and the best way to do that is to be polite and considerate of others.
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Joined May 2015
925 Posts | 9+
Dallas, Texas
If indeed Loud Pipes Save Lives, then getting a loud siren and riding with it on all the time would save even more lives?
Come on, it's just plain silly to try and justify an adolescent need to impose yourself on the public with loud exhaust noise by saying you are saving lives.
Should I get a locomotive horn for all my motorcycles and ride with it blaring?
How about the autos I own? I could really save a lot of lives then.
Come on, it's just plain silly to try and justify an adolescent need to impose yourself on the public with loud exhaust noise by saying you are saving lives.
Should I get a locomotive horn for all my motorcycles and ride with it blaring?
How about the autos I own? I could really save a lot of lives then.
Joined Oct 2015
545 Posts | 0+
Minnesota
If you don't like aftermarket exhausts then maybe you shouldn't keep posting in this thread? It is a thread where someone has asked for other's opinions on what aftermarket exhaust should be purchased, not to discuss the moral dilemma of having one. Just my 2 cents.
Joined May 2015
925 Posts | 9+
Dallas, Texas
Because there are aftermarket options that meet EPA and EU sound limits. Exhausts which reduce weight and change performance characteristics.
Good options for those wishing to make this type of change.
https://www.akrapovic.com/#!/motorcycle/products?brandId=46
http://termignoni.it/product/ducati-hypermotard-939_96480041a-copy/
Good options for those wishing to make this type of change.
https://www.akrapovic.com/#!/motorcycle/products?brandId=46
http://termignoni.it/product/ducati-hypermotard-939_96480041a-copy/
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Thank you monocog .
My post seems to have been completely misconstrued , by all these do gooders . Where have i declared that i want the most raucous , obnoxious pipe money can buy ? The 2 options shown above are typical of what I am in the market for , these last few responses are some feeble attempt to make me feel like some dirtbag teenager , but it aint working . I am a 49 year old mature bike rider and have been riding and modifying bikes since 1986 , so to be honest , your views are taken with a grain of salt , and i don't really give a **** .
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My post seems to have been completely misconstrued , by all these do gooders . Where have i declared that i want the most raucous , obnoxious pipe money can buy ? The 2 options shown above are typical of what I am in the market for , these last few responses are some feeble attempt to make me feel like some dirtbag teenager , but it aint working . I am a 49 year old mature bike rider and have been riding and modifying bikes since 1986 , so to be honest , your views are taken with a grain of salt , and i don't really give a **** .
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Joined Mar 2013
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Naples, IT
Oh, BLM land. Yes, know it well. The govt, which I work for, owns thousands of acres of it in Nevada and California, that they let me get my helicopter dirty in.
I see you live in Boston, so I won't *****-slap you with knowing the entire country. I can tell you for a fact that the fences mid-west around govt facilities and once-BLM land grow larger and larger each year. We get more toys that go higher and faster and need more area to keep civilians safe or in the dark.
Do you not remember the Bundy Standoff? You dropped a link from the Guardian? A UK news outlet? Are you going to submit some facts from RT next?
On a more personal level, I grew up in rural North Florida. You used to be able to run a 2-stroke machine anywhere there wasn't asphalt. Through the late 90's and early 2000's, more and more signs popped up around local state land sites banning engines. Conversely, I saw an exponential increase in pedal-bike lanes. I actually got a warning from a State Trooper for riding my 4-wheeler in the woods adjacent to my parents property around 2005.
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