New Front Fork Cartridge Options

BadToTheBown · Feb 17, 2019

Found my research on front fork alternatives, here you go, right or wrong:
-stock forks are 43mm upsides down units with 150mm of travel (stock Hypermotard is 170mm/Hyper SP 50mm USD with 185mm of travel)
-looked at 2011 Multistrada 1200S Ohlins fork tubes 57mm OD top tree, 58mm OD bottom tree, ~33.5” axle to top, 34mm axle diameter, 100mm brake caliper mounting spacing (their too long)
-FL9240 or FL9241 on Ohlins fork bottom
-Hypermotard 1100S: Ohlins 43 mm upside-down fully adjustable fork with TiN surface treatment, 165mm travel (leave 15mm sticking out top of triple trees?)
-Hypermotard 1100 (std)
--Can pretty much swap any fork from any other Hyper 1100
--07-09 1100 got 50mm Marzzocci
--07-08 1100 S got 50mm Marzzocci with DLC on sliders and goldish upper legs.
--09 1100 S got 48mm Kayaba, with DLC on sliders and goldish upper legs.
--10-11 1100 Evo got 50 Marzzocci, with black upper legs.
--10-11 1100 Evo SP got 50 Marzzocci with DLC on sliders and black upper legs, and additional 30mm of fork travel.
-Pretty much all cartridges solutions are cheaper than the 25mm Ohlins which are custom made, that includes Andreani, Maxxton, Traxxion, GP Suspension, Gubellini or even Racetech are cheaper.
-More expensive than Ohlins 25mm cart, you have Mupo, the full 46mm Ohlins forks or the gas charged Paioli forks.

Hope it helps and not professing it is 100% correct as I took some of it for fact off other forums...

Araitim · Feb 17, 2019

BadToTheBown said:
Found my research on front fork alternatives, here you go, right or wrong:
-stock forks are 43mm upsides down units with 150mm of travel (stock Hypermotard is 170mm/Hyper SP 50mm USD with 185mm of travel)
-looked at 2011 Multistrada 1200S Ohlins fork tubes 57mm OD top tree, 58mm OD bottom tree, ~33.5" axle to top, 34mm axle diameter, 100mm brake caliper mounting spacing (their too long)
-FL9240 or FL9241 on Ohlins fork bottom
-Hypermotard 1100S: Ohlins 43 mm upside-down fully adjustable fork with TiN surface treatment, 165mm travel (leave 15mm sticking out top of triple trees?)
-Hypermotard 1100 (std)
--Can pretty much swap any fork from any other Hyper 1100
--07-09 1100 got 50mm Marzzocci
--07-08 1100 S got 50mm Marzzocci with DLC on sliders and goldish upper legs.
--09 1100 S got 48mm Kayaba, with DLC on sliders and goldish upper legs.
--10-11 1100 Evo got 50 Marzzocci, with black upper legs.
--10-11 1100 Evo SP got 50 Marzzocci with DLC on sliders and black upper legs, and additional 30mm of fork travel.
-Pretty much all cartridges solutions are cheaper than the 25mm Ohlins which are custom made, that includes Andreani, Maxxton, Traxxion, GP Suspension, Gubellini or even Racetech are cheaper.
-More expensive than Ohlins 25mm cart, you have Mupo, the full 46mm Ohlins forks or the gas charged Paioli forks.

Hope it helps and not professing it is 100% correct as I took some of it for fact off other forums...

That's some good info. Thank you

appliance821 · Feb 17, 2019

So I contacted Mupo about the single fork kit for my standard height 13 strada, and they said that it's important to know if the forks are Kayaba or Showa. As far as I know they are all Kayaba. Does anyone have other info on this?

BadToTheBown · Feb 18, 2019

If memory serves, you have to check, it could be either and it affects some of Mupo parts for the kit...

appliance821 · Feb 18, 2019

BadToTheBown said:
If memory serves, you have to check, it could be either and it affects some of Mupo parts for the kit...

I'll call my dealer and see if they can match the components to the VIN - is there any way to tell which forks without taking them apart?

BadToTheBown · Feb 19, 2019

Good luck with that, it's not clear that they tracked any of it by serial number, when I had my forks build, he had to take them apart to know....

appliance821 · Feb 19, 2019

BadToTheBown said:
Good luck with that, it's not clear that they tracked any of it by serial number, when I had my forks build, he had to take them apart to know....

No Luck. When they took them apart were they KYB? - that's what I'm banking on because that's all anyone has listed.

MartyGarrison · Feb 19, 2019

When I bought the two cartridge Mupo 911's no one asked me about the brands just wanted to know if I had a standard vs low Hyper. As mine is a 16 939, they all are low. Maybe because I replaced both carts in the forks.

BadToTheBown · Feb 19, 2019

appliance821 said:
When they took them apart were they KYB?

Truth is I don't know. I never asked. Roger Albert of OnRoad/OffRoad built them. My bike is a 2014 821. Maybe by the time they got to the 939s they settled on a supplier but that's just a guess...

ferdi · Feb 20, 2019

MartyGarrison said:
When I bought the two cartridge Mupo 911's no one asked me about the brands just wanted to know if I had a standard vs low Hyper. As mine is a 16 939, they all are low. Maybe because I replaced both carts in the forks.

at least in US.
I have an european HS 939, 2016, and it is normal/standard height

appliance821 · Apr 28, 2019

BadToTheBown said:
Truth is I don't know. I never asked. Roger Albert of OnRoad/OffRoad built them. My bike is a 2014 821. Maybe by the time they got to the 939s they settled on a supplier but that's just a guess...

Roger was very helpful, but without sending the forks in there's no go at this point. I don't think the single kit option is in the books for the Strada. Saw one on a motard, but maybe they have a different set up.

I have also been looking at traxxion dynamics which looks good and reasonably priced. That's another option for the motard/stradas. I will definitely have them rebuild/valve the rear next winter.

Not sure which way I'll go - the European exchange rate is so good right now, it presents other options.

Regardless, because of the "unique" construction of the forks, any 2 fork solution will be a pro shop job for me.

RSL · Apr 28, 2019

Sending forks is an easy matter. Purchase a long gun case and send the forks inside the protective case AND inside the box the gun case came within.

I purchased my gun case on Amazon.

Make certain that the inside dimensions are a couple inches longer than the forks. Also make certain that the case is strong enough for the weight of the forks. Guns weigh a lot less.

Inside the case and box, the forks will safely travel to Roger, and then back to you.

appliance821 · Apr 28, 2019

RSL said:
Sending forks is an easy matter. Purchase a long gun case and send the forks inside the protective case AND inside the box the gun case came within.

I purchased my gun case on Amazon.

Make certain that the inside dimensions are a couple inches longer than the forks. Also make certain that the case is strong enough for the weight of the forks. Guns weigh a lot less.

Inside the case and box, the forks will safely travel to Roger, and then back to you.

Thanks for the info.. Not sure what I'm going to do. Spoke with a duc guy last week near me, and he seemed to know all about the quirks of the strada suspension and has a good rep.. Worked on a Honda of mine in the past.

Weirdly, with the dollar so strong, I can get a delivered mupo kit from Europe for less than 2/3 the US price - and less than traxxion. This is a luxury for me, that's real money and the US prices aren't reflecting the exchange rate.

Going to talk with the duc guy tomorrow, and see what he thinks.

appliance821 · May 8, 2019

I put in new front bearings - old ones shot (30,000+ miles), new tire, carefully balanced, and just re seated my front axle. Everything has settled down from being constantly harsh - so I'll just go with stock. Mupo is no help, Austin asked for info but has gone silent. The duc guy in Boston won't touch the forks for liability reasons - Boston does not have much of motorcycle culture so avenues are limited. It's not worth the hassle. If I still have the itch, I'll go with traxxion over the winter.

One thing to note: The manual shows axle alignment via loosening the captive end axle bolts - pushing down and then tightening them. This is wrong: Loosen the non captive end axle bolts, align and tighten them up. Doing it via the captive end will not align the axle. Probably common knowledge, but not to me - anyhow, it resolved many of my issues regarding day to day riding.

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